From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 8 14:14:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE0B16A40F for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2006 14:14:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA83543D72 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2006 14:14:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Oct 2006 14:14:46 -0000 Received: from p50911787.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO m2a2.dyndns.org) [80.145.23.135] by mail.gmx.net (mp043) with SMTP; 08 Oct 2006 16:14:46 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FA0200616 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2006 16:14:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from m2a2.dyndns.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (m2a2.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02634-09 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2006 16:14:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 528C0200F04; Sun, 8 Oct 2006 16:14:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Matthias Andree To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20061007234746.GA31286@FS.denninger.net> (Karl Denninger's message of "Sat\, 7 Oct 2006 18\:47\:46 -0500") References: <20061005151925.GA1156@FS.denninger.net> <20061005190822.GA15547@icarus.home.lan> <20061005202144.GA11105@FS.denninger.net> <54db43990610051404x1816135ft9740ec29eb5da23@mail.gmail.com> <20061006000909.GB2473@FS.denninger.net> <20061006135019.L76485@server.arg.sj.co.uk> <20061006175313.GA58888@FS.denninger.net> <20061007234746.GA31286@FS.denninger.net> X-PGP-Key: http://home.pages.de/~mandree/keys/GPGKEY.asc Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 16:14:44 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at emma.line.org X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Recommendations for a serial port card you can actually BUY? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 14:14:50 -0000 Karl Denninger writes: > Uh, if you unplug a working serial device's USB cable, you've got bigger > problems :) So you think? USB is hotplug, and it doesn't have to be a port in use that you're unplugging. > If you plug and unplug ONLY ONE, it should ID in the same place, since > there's a "hole". If you plug / unplug more than one, I can live with the > penalty being a required reboot. After all, these are NOT supposed to be > tampered with while the machine is running! OK, that makes things easier. Perhaps un-/reloading the kernel driver modules (if compiled as module) is sufficient anyways -- the module will probably reprobe everything upon reload; OTOH you can check usbd and devd and things if you can pin devices to certain ordering. -- Matthias Andree