From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Wed Aug 22 16:52:18 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C31E108EE9D for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 16:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.bowling@kev009.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22a.google.com (mail-io0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7A597E66B for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 16:52:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.bowling@kev009.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id e12-v6so1950007iok.12 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:52:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kev009.com; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=fXa6Aka4eoUs4Ld4ohAPV98llVwDyYUcOELld1gEwg4=; b=EOgNvzDGmNutYsqMbY7U5fxcBq2GSsgWzDqkE2ycZG0aqZVoD6CHQpyoPXIVHHgFeG Pn9vjOPhF1mbO4yBQnPXs4x6fX9YicbsZa2Wv5AuLuaVzjwae1fDsDLYReDn/3lYzZfQ mOijISdP51HioU1BWcfOQHJ1Glaz5RFcNu7m0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=fXa6Aka4eoUs4Ld4ohAPV98llVwDyYUcOELld1gEwg4=; b=gsr48PLJ6DiTtpV0/5xq5ecLUqQPHcDsDuX1WLxQqRsxDtuWkiiHYUngUNCyRzSJil UFuFQS2ZCAhb6xuoT0pn592LHm0c+I/VM2GA3YtnBDivhmmjx0CdpEjJtbcof+WFtqaU xOzl8rlkqmrChPzZm6FEO+4qr4mdmVQp/qZBXsr1/S3yTeQ2Qti6J/Dfuw1tdd5DRAp6 raBxVUZl1hdLx3gHhwSBe98L5v7SCVOghskkyyWB+UqYKnruzhyl8brZq4ndKvYn7u5U pPxbDwvb0DgnU4C/Adl+4glznSfsSA1dC7AEU9YzVQ0nuqi59WYg5513b34yHU9u+l5S Uv8w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlG8gy6ZwRoVwRvkK4rtRUORLxnK1BnZz+A9ExnIjrK92AlCzQvG SBYWR6j6drlsM0giP3M4TjZF+dIFFNtWsaNXbRRJiQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPwPhyZlwFTT6km0Rxl2Rh0NzIuHVqR/n5tSxr/W/riWkp3DHm94DwJNTsCScmhDdPwurGYQgJjNapdexSeS54g= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:bbc1:: with SMTP id l184-v6mr45210469iof.83.1534956737180; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:52:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a02:665b:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:52:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201808221608.w7MG89vW085118@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> References: <201808221608.w7MG89vW085118@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> From: Kevin Bowling Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:52:16 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r338172 - Now deprecating DRM To: rgrimes@freebsd.org Cc: Matthew Macy , svn-src-head@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 16:52:18 -0000 Your fundamental premise is off base, drm is not gone, it's been moved. Regards, Kevin On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 9:08 AM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> > >> > Could you please create a stable/11 deprecation change. >> > >> >> What does that entail other than an update to UPDATING in stable/11? > > I see some others have answered on this, so I'll just summarize. > > 1) Calls to gone_in should be added to the stable/11 drm modules > so that when they are loaded a message informs the user of > the deprecation. > Please be sure to tag this commit with Relnotes: Y > > 2) No note is needed in UPDATING, as there is not any action for > the user to take in stable/11, the UPDATING note was done in > head, which is correct. > > 3) If for some reason you make another DRM removal related > commit to head please add a tag for Relnotes: Y as this > needs to be in the 12.0 release notes too. > > Thats all I can think of right now, as a future request, > and IMHO, all deprecations should have a formal review > process, no mater who approved it. There are just so > many bits and pieces that need done to make sure these > work smoothly as possible. > > For example, the gone_in stuff was desinged so that > should of been the first commit, in ^head, and then > merged to stable/11. All commits adding gone_in should be > tagged with relnotes Y so good notification goes out. > > Desirably these gone-in's should be in existing > for a full point release, so that we do not abondon > uses that was not considered, this DRM one seems to > have rather serious impacts on a couple of users. > > I think this deprecation is a rather serious deviation > from the stated policy, in that 0 notification was > made, core IMHO, has overstepped some boundaries in > that respect. These policies are promises to the > downstream consumers, and violating them is very > poor planning. > > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org > _______________________________________________ > svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"