From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 18:18:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A641065670 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:18:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCE98FC08 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:18:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AC7E6CBF for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:18:22 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=bmbGKIx6Co92 140dbxU5dx1U4OM=; b=B5PrugasRDRzr/fpIvD8TSE/8OCqpPW8nZYVpEwU8ne5 ymrBvaidWCh8GRUZkJuWvLA74Y3symJ/VZU57EE2niixDGcJl/X4ZtXxtORNWzMb ZRXrixw+gmDjq62xJvCoBEtmfZa8bQYy9RiqZt6Cx/GPqbzZcg8HPV/+NkqhB/0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=Om8q8s K9Dm9WGBTXrnCkXStfPC8ZtxtWt6ZLxgObQjE6GcRopzD2f+BZsrNfymcTKFLteE zgnuztDgOlA+hOeZJ+iNC0MwcF9OZicttWMZ3X3Eo1FBySJNs9hUE8/rJ+abZqu4 Apr4k9VZptMYWTgXyLj5ft4XPhxYJsjPXb0u8= Received: from [192.168.1.64] (188-222-18-231.zone13.bethere.co.uk [188.222.18.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C1DBDE6C67 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:18:22 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4E286D6D.9010201@cran.org.uk> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:18:21 +0100 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <24466_1311199850_4E27526A_24466_7987_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499C521866E@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <4e28160e.bVryeJCK1esNt615%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20110721141534.GC59455@guilt.hydra> <4E283B4E.4010303@cran.org.uk> <20110721170055.GD69370@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20110721170055.GD69370@guilt.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 2020: Will BSD and Linux be relevant anymore? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:18:24 -0000 On 21/07/2011 18:00, Chad Perrin wrote: > I suspect those drivers are the drivers that have *survived*. I saw > hardware suddenly stop working because of driver issues just between > SP1 and SP2 of XP -- including, in one case, the hard drive that had > the OS on it. The system would start booting, then unload the driver > because it was not "compatible", thus losing contact with the very > hard drive from which it was loading the OS. Maybe I was just lucky, > though. Obviously Microsoft does introduce new driver technologies with new OS releases: there was a new video architecture in Vista, for example. However, they do seem rather good at supporting older technologies such as TDI, and I suspect those drivers that fail aren't very well written. -- Bruce Cran