From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 24 14:23:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25752 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:23:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25747 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:23:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20827; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdu20820; Sun Jan 24 22:15:13 1999 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:15:08 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Garrett Wollman cc: Mike Smith , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysctl oids (was: Re: kvm question) In-Reply-To: <199901242201.RAA17112@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG yeah and we should get those nice valves that used to make radios so useful as space-heaters. On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > Backwards compatibility is one thing, but new nodes should be named, > > not numbered. OID_AUTO is bogus because it perpetuates the numbering > > of nodes. > > Nonsense. There are plenty of contexts in which a number makes far > more sense than a name -- pretty much anything in any network stack > other than Chaosnet, for example. If any of us ever make good on the > threat of SNMP integration, having fixed numerical identifiers will be > a requirement. SNMP will require a translation layer anyhow.. numbers cannot and should not be used. They are not easily maintained in the face of multiple external modules being dynamically loadable. That is at least my opinion.. you may and do disagree. I guess you will say that numbers are just as dynamic, etc.etc. well I just think that in the REAL WORLD, as opposed to the theoretical world, names (which require no co-ordination between authors), are a better choice than numbers, which require some central naming authority. > > -GAWollman > > -- > Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same > wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom > Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame > MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message