Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 04:03:35 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" <winter@jurai.net> To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@kryten.Atinc.COM> Cc: current@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISP state their FreeBSD concerns Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.91.951113035436.3379A-100000@sasami> In-Reply-To: <Pine.3.89.9511121046.D27384-0100000@kryten.atinc.com>
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On Sun, 12 Nov 1995, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > these points|perceptions are important. XXX has evidently talked > with a number of isp's and expended some effort to identify the > characteristics of FreeBSD that isp's free are most lacking. let's call > it a call-for-dialog. freebsd-isp@freebsd.org can provide the forum. > > from the initial post and the responses, i gather > > 0. more dialog between isp's and the freebsd development team. I'm not going to say anything until 2.1 comes out. At that point we will be able to make a distinction betweent our kludges and freebsd problems. I think that if everything is examined you will find that most things people want are packaging. FreeBSD allows me to do just about everything, however, for a good deal of it, I had to actually figure something out. (I rather prefer this method, but for turnkey solutions, this isn't going to work) How much time does FreeBSD project want to sink in making this happen (I'm very impressed with the package management stuff so far. Its really nice to be able to get the base os and utils installed in 45 minutes.) > 1. there is a desperate need for additional documentation of the > tutorial + example form > > 2. we need suggested configurations for specific tasks: news spool, > dial-in box, web server.... This really will depend on what software packages are going to be used. I think a better topic would be high end hardware configurations. (what disk, scsi cards, motherboards etc...) Of course this is a bigger project. :) > 3. problem reports need to provide information on how to reproduce > the problem. system configuration. system activity. log file > output. Thats only natural. > 4. isp's need to be willing to test bug fixes Well, I'm not going to test stuff on production hardware, but I do have machines that are for that express purpose. Have a good one. | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"|
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