From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 25 19:31:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209C5106568C; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rivanr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A1F8FC20; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so2004079bwz.43 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:31:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uNhwHaPusyurmIKC15ADUHe1TW59vcsSuGgMk8uzk1Q=; b=XlnrJj1fWpm906ewXrFQOnxNdvKVgMpshCe1xSq+zw8gvzjFiDKa4nlnsWIJ5Xul/H IGiS1lK2l0Rp9+ksZPv048wtdQwqzUeTqm24rf3Nox+Y2P/397x+9rGhjh2Hvdoh0L/O lyzh7uRNIL6W/vZmdxZw+MdVK37WlXHlhupdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dVBkC7inYImwC/OJh/MNbEpHmwB2qRRRJz83tV3X9u+CY6alvaPx9bIP3Eb664NIbl vi04NMMH6csrnrgry0IhAdGKKg228uvi1qQtnJbUd/Us8vreYBJa98+rrs3m4pixS/mG C+0rJkNl64oDZzQbVCrRn3wEcI6BdH3l57TkM= Received: by 10.102.178.11 with SMTP id a11mr2858959muf.129.1251228698066; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from azdaja.softwarehood.com ([95.180.33.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u9sm1495217muf.7.2009.08.25.12.31.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A943C18.2050103@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:31:36 +0200 From: Ivan Radovanovic User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton References: <20090825034054.2d57e733@dev.lan.Awfulhak.org> <4A94325D.6070201@FreeBSD.org> <4A9436A7.2020108@gmail.com> <4A94385A.1000405@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4A94385A.1000405@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, Brian Somers Subject: Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:31:40 -0000 Doug Barton napisa: > If you're developing your own app to display running processes > implement it any way you wish. That's totally unrelated to the > question at hand. > > Doug > I totally disagree with you - being against change means that you believe it is done the best way it could be done. Although there is another way to solve this "problem" - manual can be changed to state in the first row "process status formated for terminal output" instead of "process status" which is now title for ps. That way it would be obvious at the first look that ps is tightly coupled with terminal it is running on and nobody would need to learn this harder way. Regards, Ivan