From nobody Mon Jan 22 23:36:02 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TJmnY4D0Fz58Rl9 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2024 23:36:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joesuf4@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x430.google.com (mail-wr1-x430.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::430]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TJmnX4Yvqz4klX; Mon, 22 Jan 2024 23:36:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joesuf4@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=gx9w0ouu; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of joesuf4@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::430 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=joesuf4@gmail.com Received: by mail-wr1-x430.google.com with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-33929364bdaso1995003f8f.2; Mon, 22 Jan 2024 15:36:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1705966573; x=1706571373; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=SmI6NKVttGeDqbGsRxLmbg+qChIFblceJ72VB7leEOk=; b=gx9w0ouuktlPloxvdRAT5PRPWoLGcJETaGskRFpe6MXTOrCPwfmVpSqKSi0pGnnFh3 tdWuXe+DT+nYEqzdTxi2ZRE1laJJnIMyrzEXzfkG38EYe3hKxshQAYzNC2WMR7BNjAak rg1Z3slGZcSsA3R5abek3GIiRCqueATBJrryQGOqjx2UCsYsLY0Xw9QpkDDJDIdzn0wL 1hWDv7R3qaEiEriZxP8ZermJYxHqKhHyv8sdSsu4/ehbffq3z8Gf+mR1zxGU+C9b2F2X f0C8XL+rSWgXQ+87DAEpixeHorRsXa3Xipd4uAD4KjTpMv1mO1anwoPblqtUgtyKoobx QTHA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1705966573; x=1706571373; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=SmI6NKVttGeDqbGsRxLmbg+qChIFblceJ72VB7leEOk=; b=jRmcA40JKsjZ48ZH/aTE+w6yBDRpUahaF0z2aIZab42Y29wfzn9BB+0weJeu+Kn3dM c28TvdsBNzxngCoE6Da4h/XzA0ptKjlWk2ptVHM/NTCZ7gCLDOL1BN9c3UGfPSSOansM 7GKnKt0yuuIlZzhcbhxplycYS6heU6iqSNLivxX1I1W2JX3+6z/dVYjfqkpT/VlJWQ52 VsEwvyzh+Lb+iiYM65YRb9wbNE+KVdYBGVCIqdv2TGoclr4s8oVmHjPfgnQ4jPhSJEwg 37cC9K+JC1uUth8QNEEH+pcjbwxRpho7g+n7uCIZ3a3gnSsl+8CHH0hUo1NkSytG1Dbc 6Xxw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxlvAfHQLGa+BdQWnkcY5jgbCAruFjaPX1pbi0xpifLrN2go78N 3/TVdSiBQfmhzdzycVwFhN2aVmgMb9o64V1+YgcqqWjgmMV8GyGvhCDELpr+0IOGV3JVdG1Ncpd t797e97Q/K6RjNWpiCHpLhiszeJED4vPI X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHLRifNp0b5G3xUg/ZJ7GCgl04XpFszsCLG+J3JGNWkKMml2QeQ2xm4oAGIwRofoDZGRDEsPwAtCykM6rHw6TQ= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4e0f:0:b0:337:bae9:5336 with SMTP id p15-20020a5d4e0f000000b00337bae95336mr2959811wrt.121.1705966572987; Mon, 22 Jan 2024 15:36:12 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202401211928.40LJSWnE095287@critter.freebsd.dk> <66cfaeff-2054-4160-9634-914af127496f@antonovs.family> In-Reply-To: From: Joe Schaefer Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 18:36:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The Problem Of Governance (or lack thereof) To: Rob Wing Cc: Ihor Antonov , core@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000094e7d9060f914b27" X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.36 / 15.00]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.86)[-0.865]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::430:from]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TJmnX4Yvqz4klX --00000000000094e7d9060f914b27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know what happened to Gmail=E2=80=99s thread mute functionality= ? On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 6:00=E2=80=AFPM Rob Wing wrot= e: > > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 1:00=E2=80=AFPM Ihor Antonov wrote: > >> >> I find it very confusing. A former core team member and a prominent >> member of the community openly denies the >> documented purpose of the elected team. The core itself remains silent. >> Who to believe? >> > > sounds like the website could be updated to reflect phk's description. > > any other confusions? > --00000000000094e7d9060f914b27 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone know what happened to Gmail=E2=80=99s thread = mute functionality?

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 6:00=E2=80=AFPM Rob Wing &l= t;rob.fx907@gmail.com> wrote:=


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On Mon, Ja= n 22, 2024 at 1:00=E2=80=AFPM Ihor Antonov <ihor@antonovs.family> wro= te:

I find it very confusing. A former core team member and a prominent
member of the community openly denies the
documented purpose of the elected team. The core itself remains silent. Who to believe?

sounds like the website= could be updated to reflect phk's description.

any other confusions?
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