From nobody Mon Jan 31 12:45:31 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32B91988FBA; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 12:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4JnSTW4Gwzz4bYF; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 12:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1643633135; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=6XvGQgnutzI5n7mkHS4a+5Sr3hcUL/XX/dMe8JpB4ck=; b=Fb0d+90u03uxHaeFWzL/ubkXv4I4gRUU6DAAM3dkNTTwl7f1yZ1AdeLUHfX7TV+jw++WF8 h71HDVchNvVhyzFjZiBZOMR+z+JkrLwJ2gqyTwoHI/1rB+c7MC4ABkU3KVaeV90e5JeV/g xLqeB6uIwT5rUXmtq96Hqt2hMlGR/XQYDDGRqe/0qeITTzG+5mGBM9X8tBezOqekv+TYHt +emgNy5GW1/jGkVetLNJYDhNBdMJyK7356rlJ73cufGMCWdQPRyBix0p6VFgLIkC+abVDi OR8NWAIojaW5+a9y8D2PcKP89arILUEeWIw2uZlV1bwDoHnU0+QBCW98mf5/hA== Received: from aniel.nours.eu (nours.eu [IPv6:2001:41d0:8:3a4d::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: bapt) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5AB61203FB; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 12:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: by aniel.nours.eu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0455EAAD72; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 13:45:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 13:45:31 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Dag-Erling =?utf-8?B?U23DuHJncmF2?= Cc: Ed Maste , FreeBSD Hackers , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Dragonfly Mail Agent (dma) in the base system Message-ID: <20220131124531.aoc7lowc3f7vyjaf@aniel.nours.eu> References: <86czk8rhcd.fsf@next.des.no> List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <86czk8rhcd.fsf@next.des.no> ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1643633135; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=6XvGQgnutzI5n7mkHS4a+5Sr3hcUL/XX/dMe8JpB4ck=; b=abqSZPBtBVVbcsOpL8AWYSJdLv5WJDkIhrMzs5wdkzQARJfpr0PZZg95wL5mdOQTE+059/ z2Nrt6bfoA6U+y0BFpfME6ICvUGS4a4+5iWLHt7tHHvW9WSxW0cOpRz8cHcgYed3vGrSis P9dMrV6hucBokkH0Gx5SoeZdrrnH9apk5BcqY/4Di3fNb+cXzsYVlF5wr+cBqV6guIKNgT IhA86dZx4ZAVdZksrctZ/G/b4jCw+PVtGmcN5b9CLlKTp6t/2sv4x/4Oax8MVOI+SM6aHA SN99VT9tYdF/VeQPLXU0nFlk7G3gxpaUtQhNUCAxGW9d4MEOCCntWHSFagcAIw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1643633135; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=bVbsNxsvf+HCoFptqV4m0j3eXsVnWVSkviR9p83YWYNyU4NBqjbAzj3/Ox8yKR03d3iGhG KzGZ1ZzsAfzgB6NRZrSEojmj+xNpZixUAJjuTy9bh3X1Z8/X5OFuz+guVbygQ0h405E/VP uFW7dyEnSVADBxibBVS6RBWbBJZvHzPZEz9O1SioDDMkk3vCDReoraAviLLrC8MAZgQVtv cSbhS73KehnuuP2jMr2OTq1JvvP0jF/thsXOj16CJKdKHDbBIS9mcjnFit75PR5eH57q1I 2dXTFBJegczpPZiRzdlwfx+Fxw08fKuX7IV0O6faZBAS0pGVpmFiyb778w/haQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 11:25:54PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Ed Maste writes: > > I am interested in determining whether dma is a viable minimal base > > system MTA, and if not what gaps remain. > > It cannot. Ask bapt@ who was the one to import it, and later abandon > the idea of making it our default MTA. The reason was that it does not > have a default domain setting, so it cannot handle email from cron, > periodic etc. where the recipient is just a user name (usually “root”), > and the devs were not willing to add that feature. I have email as far > back as 2015 on the subject. > This has been fixed since. (not by me) Bapt