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Date:      Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:08:41 +0100
From:      Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
To:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
Cc:        obrien@NUXI.com, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/chown Makefile
Message-ID:  <19991215000841.E2188@daemon.ninth-circle.org>
In-Reply-To: <199912140617.WAA18057@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>; from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net on Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 10:17:50PM -0800
References:  <19991213221310.B34110@dragon.nuxi.com> <199912140617.WAA18057@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>

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-On [19991214 08:00], Rodney W. Grimes (freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) wrote:
>And now that I went digging your going to find that chown/chgrp is not
>the only thing missing to run MAKEDEV.
>
>printf is _NOT_ a borne shell builtin, so you'll also need /usr/bin/printf,
>used extensivly in MAKEDEV.

Then make ksh the default shell and use print.  We're probably one of
the last ones to use a bourne shell as default sh.

>Might I suggest you backthis out (as it creates the mess of folks having
>to remeber to rm /usr/sbin/chown) until you have a _COMPLETE_ set of
>patches that makes /dev/MAKEDEV run without /usr, and have tested that
>set of _COMPLETE_ patches.

Well Rodney,

aside from that David is getting there slowly, there are a few other
things:

- There exists something called tagging a source tree which enables a
  person to actually tag specific revisions of files so that that could
  be used for the 3.4-R release.  Not the most ideal of circumstances
  because it requires that the one tagging the tree actually has to
  think.

- at least he _is_ trying to get people out of MAKEDEV problems.

- some people actually LOOK at patches and test it before they start
  yelling.

- Your comment was as constructive as a broken brick or quicksand,
  whatever you prefer more.

And judging overall, the only thing I have seen from you in the last
year is nothing more but a constant stream of whining without actually
contributing something positive back to solve the problem at hand, save
`back this out now'.

I may be stepping across some imagined or virtual line others see which
I don't by stating the above, but that's how I see it.  Of course, you
don't have to care about it.

-- 
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai           asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl]
Documentation nutter.          *BSD: Technical excellence at its best...  
The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai>;
Atone me to my throes curtail...


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