From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 10 14:45:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168B91065673 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7995D8FC1B for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Sep 2011 14:45:04 -0000 Received: from g227136144.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO mandree.no-ip.org) [92.227.136.144] by mail.gmx.net (mp013) with SMTP; 10 Sep 2011 16:45:04 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19E2ddejzRElW2aNQtXadYn0/Xy8cfjCkoid0we1a H2O2CXIxNX3rOt Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259BC23CE28 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:45:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E6B77EE.6030509@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:45:02 +0200 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Mnenhy/0.8.3 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <4E6B1AF5.7090900@tomse.dk> <4E6B227B.5050708@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4E6B227B.5050708@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Removed ports - looking from the bench X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:45:07 -0000 Am 10.09.2011 10:40, schrieb Doug Barton: > The way that the FreeBSD project handles deleted ports is to leave them > in the CVS repository, where they are easily available to everyone who > would like to access them. > > However I think that your idea is interesting, and I'd love to see the > people who are deeply concerned about deleted ports pursue it as an > independent project. If they do, I will personally put a reference to it > in the Handbook. :) I think the question that we can find an easy answer to is see to documenting and possibly providing a script that checks out ports from anoncvs's Attic for them. Along with some documentation explaining typical upgrade chores, like removing shared library versions from the _DEPENDS lines. If it then fails to build, the user knows why we killed the port -- and/or it can serve a starting point for those who try to polish it, and possibly submit. A committer could, after a PR, possibly stuff new submissions in the attic. We're out of responsibility for anything, users can still have it. Fewer questions asked, no CVS skills needed, and a lower barrier for users to get to the work we have done in the past but are no longer carrying forward. I somewhat dislike the idea of keeping a separate repository though, and I want to make installing dead ports harder for users. Collecting all places where relevant documentation is required would take some time, and could be a job up for grabs for non-developers.