From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Nov 26 13:02:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05185 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:02:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.GTS.NET (whambam.gts.net [204.138.66.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05180 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:02:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tronix!signalpath.on.ca!louis@GTS.NET) Received: from tronix by mail.GTS.NET (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1; 1998-Nov-20) (2553 bytes) via rmail with /P:uucp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp id (sender ) for FreeBSD.ORG!FreeBSD-advocacy; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:01:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from tronix.signalpath.on.ca([192.168.250.1]) (2270 bytes) by tronix via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:smart_host/T:uux (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:11:04 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #1 built 1998-Jul-27) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:11:04 -0500 (EST) From: Louis Bertrand Reply-To: Louis Bertrand To: OpenBSD Advocacy List cc: netbsd-advocacy@NetBSD.ORG, FreeBSD advocacy list Subject: Re: Merging Net/Free/Open-BSD together against Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, What I'm reading about here is some sort of super-standard to cover the freenix BSDs (and maybe even BSD/OS). Bad idea even if, as JKH says, we were able to find a master architect. In my experience in the hardware domain, standards favour widespread adoption but stifle innovation. For example the i386 ISA is a dog to design for, but people did it anyway because they could sell huge amounts of hardware. You can make the parallel in the software world with the 640K limit. What in fact we don't want in the BSD world is a monolithic standard that will stifle development. Instead, let's ask ourselves what do we want from BSD (in general). Innovation and cutting edge technology that you won't find anywhere else, or easily unpacked predictable applications? I personally favour innovation. Let's stick to strong guidelines and recommendations, share the ideas and solutions, and promote all flavours. But don't cast anything in stone( that's for fossils). Ciao! --Louis Louis Bertrand, Bowmanville, ON, Canada vox +1.905.623.8925 fax +1.905.623.3852 OpenBSD: Security matters On Thu, 26 Nov 1998, ADRIAN Filipi-Martin wrote: > unified distribution with three possible kernel architectures, yet a > unified userland? (He quickly ducks for cover.) As long as device files, > filesystem and directory hierarchies were agreed to, it seems feasible. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message