From owner-freebsd-bugs Tue Nov 24 08:44:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09952 for freebsd-bugs-outgoing; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:44:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09841 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:43:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09234; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:42:19 +0100 (CET) To: Michael Ryan cc: Garrett Wollman , freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Y2K In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:12:29 PST." Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:42:18 +0100 Message-ID: <9232.911925738@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, lets just say that I disagree a lot with you. The difference clearly originating from the fact that you are getting paid whereas I use my spare time. First of, you should notice that 2.2.5R will be at least five releases and 25 months old by the time we get to 31121999. We already have three relases out (2.2.6, 2.2.7 & 3.0) with 2.2.8 scheduled and 3.0.1 sort of scheduled (jan 99), so we might even manage to make it seven or eight releases old before the big party. Second, we have released as comprehensive information as we have, which, in my own dead-pan interpretation, says: "UNIX doesn't care about y2k in general, but a few programs have to take humanized dates as I/O, and they could have a few soft spots, although what we have found is minimal, but we'll continue to look". Third, you have the source. If you can imagine any soft spots, why don't you go look? That is the main difference from a bin-only UNIX where you have to rely on the vendor to tell you what's under the hood, you can go look for your self! You can even install a test machine and try it out for yourself, there are no licenses which restrict your freedom in any respect. Fourth, if you had paid for a service contract, or even for the product you use in the first place, I could understand some of your reasoning, in particular if the source was not availble to you, but considering the circumstances, I find your demands completely unreasonable, your arguments inflated and pompous and your reason in doubt. Sincerely, Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message