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Date:      Wed, 09 Nov 2022 21:15:23 +0100
From:      Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>
To:        "Patrick M. Hausen" <pmh@hausen.com>
Cc:        imp@bsdimp.com, marklmi@yahoo.com, tsoome@freebsd.org, lwhsu@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: changes to the zfs boot (was: Re: git: 72a1cb05cd23 - main - rc(8): Add a zpoolupgrade rc.d script)
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Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" <pmh@hausen.com> (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022=20=20
21:02:52=20+0100):

> Hi,
>
>> Am 09.11.2022 um 20:58 schrieb Alexander Leidinger=20=20
>>=20<Alexander@leidinger.net>:
>>
>> Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" <pmh@hausen.com> (from Wed, 9 Nov 2022=20=20
>>=2020:49:37 +0100):
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>> Am 09.11.2022 um 20:45 schrieb Alexander Leidinger=20=20
>>>>=20<Alexander@leidinger.net>:
>>>> But "zpool set feature@edonr=3Denabled rpool" (or any other feature=20=
=20
>>>>=20not in the list we talk about) would render it unbootable.
>>>
>>> Sorry, just to be sure. So an active change of e.g. checksum or=20=20
>>>=20compression algorithm
>>> might render the system unbootable but a zpool upgrade never will?=20=
=20
>>>=20At least not intentionally? ;-)
>>
>> If you mean "zpool upgrade", then no (modulo bugs). OpenZFS uses=20=20
>>=20the feature flags instead of zpool upgrade.
>
> I know about feature flags and all my pools are recent enough to have the=
m.
>
> Yet, I made it a habit to whenever I see this message:
>
> -----------
> status: Some supported features are not enabled on the pool. The pool can
> 	still be used, but some features are unavailable.
> action: Enable all features using 'zpool upgrade'. Once this is done,
> 	the pool may no longer be accessible by software that does not support
> 	the features. See zpool-features(7) for details.
> -----------
>
> to do a "zpool upgrade" after some time of burn in followed by an=20=20
>=20update of the
> boot loader.
>
> I desire to know if that is in fact dangerous.

Ugh. This changed. It is indeed dangerous now. I just tested it with a=20=
=20
non-root=20pool which didn't had all flags enabled. "zpool upgrade=20=20
<pool>"=20will now enable all features.

I remember that it wasn't in the past and I had to enable the feature=20=20
flags=20by hand. I don't know if a pool with bootfs set is behaving=20=20
differently,=20but I consider testing this with a real rpool to be=20=20
dangerous.

Bye,
Alexander.

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