From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 27 12:56:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830AB16A4CE; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:56:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vhost109.his.com (vhost109.his.com [216.194.225.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166E543D31; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:56:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brad@stop.mail-abuse.org) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (localhost.his.com [127.0.0.1]) by vhost109.his.com (8.12.11/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i7RCuk0Y036081; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:56:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brad@stop.mail-abuse.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@127.0.0.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20040827114038.GA2453@online.fr> References: <41248C2F.8020401@quadspeed.com> <417F9703-F1DC-11D8-AE79-000393BB56F2@HiWAAY.net> <007001c485ec$9d3bbb10$3300a8c0@verizon.net> <9FDC1E28-F1E2-11D8-AE79-000393BB56F2@HiWAAY.net> <20040819134840.GA3104@online.fr> <20040822015558.GO92256@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20040827114038.GA2453@online.fr> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:53:49 +0200 To: Rahul Siddharthan From: Brad Knowles Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why top-posting is bad X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:56:58 -0000 At 5:10 PM +0530 2004-08-27, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: >> [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] >> >> at the top of such replies and > > First comment: you included this message at the top of this mail, but > the only difference in format I see between your message and mine is > the quoting ">" marks. Why your "format recovered" message? Lines re-wrapped, I should think. Or, if he's responding to e-mail that was formatted in HTML, then it's probably the first ASCII conversion/line-wrapping job that has been done to them. > Have you > considered that some people, who don't see an obvious formatting > problem with their mail, may consider this message offensive? Then they need to read that page. That's why the comment is there. > Or, if there was indeed some subtle formatting > problem in my message that you've corrected, shouldn't you be polite > enough to tell me what it is? Your webpage certainly doesn't. There's a whole host of things that might be wrong. Indeed, there's literally an infinite number of things that might be wrong. Instead of trying to enumerate all the possible ways in which your message might be inappropriately formatted, it's easier/better to tell people what proper formatting is. Indeed, it really is the *only* feasible thing to do in such circumstances. > I get plenty of messages that are top-posted continuously all the way > for 10 generations. I see no problem in following the context. You may not. But most people do. I've been doing e-mail for going on twenty-five years, and I have problems following this sort of crap. I can't imagine that anyone less experienced would have an easier time of it. > I agree this does not apply to FreeBSD lists, but most people may not > realise that unless it's (politely) explained to them. Anyway, > top-posting isn't unheard-of in FreeBSDland either: I've seen JKH and > Scott Long do it, among others. Greg does explain this politely. See the above web page. > That can be explained politely, rather than saying "Top-posters won't > be honoured with a reply". See above. -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info.