From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Feb 18 17:02:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83FE14E3B38; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 17:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "troutmask", Issuer "troutmask" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE9AF72136; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 17:02:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x1IH2Bfo003386 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Feb 2019 09:02:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x1IH2B4v003385; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 09:02:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 09:02:11 -0800 From: Steve Kargl To: Ian Lepore Cc: Warner Losh , "Rodney W. Grimes" , Niclas Zeising , Stefan Blachmann , Vladimir Kondratyev , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Current , owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is evdev and autoloading? Message-ID: <20190218170211.GE2912@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Reply-To: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu References: <7b25c1bf-5648-cd52-544b-828538a742d9@freebsd.org> <201902181512.x1IFCOwm005711@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <20190218165053.GC2912@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <57e29b3835c0e0a35336959212be0b3075e31714.camel@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57e29b3835c0e0a35336959212be0b3075e31714.camel@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.2 (2019-01-07) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: BE9AF72136 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.13 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[21.76.95.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.11.2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: troutmask.apl.washington.edu]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[9]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.07)[ip: (0.14), ipnet: 128.95.0.0/16(0.20), asn: 73(0.09), country: US(-0.07)]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:73, ipnet:128.95.0.0/16, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.86)[0.865,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[washington.edu]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.89)[0.891,0]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.61)[0.611,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 17:02:23 -0000 On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 09:58:14AM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Mon, 2019-02-18 at 08:50 -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 09:11:14AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > > You do know these constant complaints about people trying to make > > > things > > > better is demoralizing and counter productive. > > > > > > > You do realize some of the emails are from frustrated users > > who are trying to make FreeBSD (see for example libm). > > > > And do you realize that you've trimmed away all the context so that now > it looks like Warner was talking to you, when in fact he was replying > to Rod? I sure hope that was an accident. > Thanks for your considered input. It has been noted. -- Steve