From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 15: 1: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781F237B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host5.domaindataservers.net (host5.domaindataservers.net [216.15.133.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057DB43E70 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:01:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdlists@nwbombers.com) Received: from 64-35-128-99.gohighspeed.com ([64.35.128.99] helo=win98) by host5.domaindataservers.net with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17XqfD-0004NP-00; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:00:52 -0500 Message-ID: <020401c23426$d7e97c80$0702a8c0@win98> From: "Mark Koskenmaki" To: "David Raistrick" Cc: References: Subject: Re: PPPoE Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:01:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host5.domaindataservers.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - nwbombers.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ahhh, great... What I need is some pointers to what you use to do all this. The windows clients, and what you run on the freebsd box. I have a couple FreeBSD boxes I could use. One is a dual pent pro the other a P3 667, I would assume both adequate for perhaps 20 total users with a total aggregate bandwidth of perhaps 3Mbit/sec? I'm not a FreeBSD expert by any means, nor a networking guru... but if I know what to use, and have some kind of clue how it's set up, I can usually succeed. Mark Koskenmaki webmaster: www.nwbombers.com contact me offlist at mark@gotourown.com 10 of every 8 people are mathematically challenged "Beware anyone who can fake sincerity." ----- Original Message ----- From: David Raistrick To: Mark Koskenmaki Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: Re: PPPoE > On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, David Raistrick wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > > > Or, via a VPN. I have just never seen a VPN, but believed they put quite > > > a bit of extra overhead on the network, reducing throughput. > > > > > > Now, am I shooting in the dark here, or what??? > > And just to follow up on my own post... > > I assume you're an ISP. In such a situation, as long as you're not > selling your service as "secure" or anything..PPPoE should be fine. It's > no more or less secure then anything ELSE on the internet, but does let > you run your equipment in an unnumbered subnet to prevent access to your > devices...including gateways. > > It CAN be spoofed, and it CAN be listened to....but so can telnet, pop3, > http...If your customer needs/wants a secure connection (either to your CO > or to another company), then sell them a strong encryption VPN > solution. For everyone else, sell them easily-authenticated service. > > Hell, you can even sell by-the-seat to companies if things are configured > right. (though when I designed a wireless network to do this, we were > using a much less common wireless product....virtual aDSL almost. rfc1483 > split horizon issues can be used to ones advantage.:) > > > > > --- > david raistrick > drais@atlasta.net http://www.expita.com/nomime.html > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message