From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 23 14:32:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12347 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:32:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.auracom.net (root@mail1.auracom.net [165.154.140.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12289 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:32:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arthur@col.auracom.com) Received: from outpost.col.auracom.com (ts1-12.tru.auracom.com [165.154.114.44]) by mail1.auracom.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA07990; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 17:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 18:36:07 -0300 (ADT) From: arthur Reply-To: arthur To: The Classiest Man Alive cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lists, newbies & support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, The Classiest Man Alive wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, arthur wrote: > > : It would be a good place for people new to unix to cut their teeth and > : ready themselves for the overwhelming amount of mail that comes from > : subscribing to -questions. > > This is a joke, right? As much mail as we generate needlessly debating > why newbies should have their own question lists, I've had to install new > e-mail filters just to keep track of it all. > Well .... if it made you laugh, yes, it was a joke ;) ... since most of my normal jokes get nothing more than a mild snicker. > And while I'm up on the soapbox, why is everyone so afraid of asking > questions in FreeBSD-Questions? The worst that you'll get is ignored or > a standard RTM response. So what? You're all adults. Deal with it. > .. Personally I've never had to ask any questions, I've been able to find evrything I need in the faq and handbook, and sometimes with the advice of a good friend that I introduced to FreeBSD, he just happens to be one of those born computer geniuses that can make a computer sit up and bark if he wants, but that's getting onto another story. There is something we have to keep in mind here though, and that is the new generation of net users that started using computers knowing only a gui environment. This is something I have to keep reminding myself since not everyone has been using computers for a decade or more and has seen MS's products grow into the monster it is. I am in no way trying to put down those unfortunate souls that got into computers later than I, but we do have to remember that the easier MS's products became the harder it is to go to something else that takes a little work to setup. What I mean by a little work to setup is when you just download the needed files to start a FreeBSD system. I haven't had the opportunity to get my hands on the FreeBSD cds yet, so I can't say what it's like to setup from those, but I'm sure it's easier than downloading everything and going from there. Must be quicker if nothing else, but then again I've never found FreeBSD hard to setup or use, so I think I'll end this ramble here. > Besides, two lists requires people to make judgements on whether a > question is for the newbies or advanced enough to make -Questions. And if > the e-mail on this list is any indication, I might as well just get a job > as a greeter in Level One of Tim's Seven Circles of UNIX Knowledge because > I'll never make it to Level Two. > > K.S. Great, you interested in starting a level 1 club, if so I want to join :) But seriously, trying to decide on what list a question would go to is the major problem. But as some others have mentioned, two question lists would be a waste, so what can we do ? ... what can we do to make this unix varient more appealing to new users. I deffinately don't want this operating system to fall to the gutter, it's all I've been using since I've found it, and I'll be damned if I'm going to give up on it. I can't believe I've gotten myself tied up in a thread :) ... let's keep those opinions coming, that's the only way anything can get started, unless this thread is out of topic for the newbies list .... oops, what did I do with that charter .. :) ltr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - arthur@col.auracom.com In a world without fences, is there a need for gates --end-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message