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Date:      Wed, 09 Jun 1999 14:12:51 +0100
From:      David Malone <dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie>
To:        The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: System hangs...SCSI/CAM related? 
Message-ID:   <9906091412.aa29720@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jun 1999 10:00:04 -0300." <Pine.BSF.4.05.9906090956520.49155-100000@thelab.hub.org> 

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> I would love to comply this with one, except the last time I asked about
> this, it basically worked out that there was no way of doing the break to
> debugger from a serial console :(
> 
> Anyone know if that has changed?

Control-PrintScreen should break to the debugger, providing you aren't
running X.

> > I had a few lockups after upgrading INN a few times. It seemed to go
> > away if I rebuild my history database (which I'd forgotten to do).
> 
> I'm sorry, but this, IMHO, is just wrong...not that you had the problem,
> just that the problem ever existed...it might just be me, but a userland
> program locking up the system sounds like a MicroSloth-ism, not something
> I'd expect from Unix :(  If I were running it as root vs
> news...maybe...but even then, it should cause an error or terminate more
> gracefully then "screw this, let's crash"...

It shouldn't have helped, but it seemed to. At the time I was more interested
in getting the machine working than tracking down the problem.

This is with a 2.2.X machine, and I am using mmap for most stuff in
inn, which at one stage people advised against. Until quite recently
we used to get blocks of nuls at the end of the active file if we
had a crash - now I've a perl script which cleans this stuff up. (The
machine is one of two NFS servers for about 50 diskless terminals,
and sometimes runs out of mbufs)...

	David.


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