From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 24 08:40:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4620A16A423 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:40:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C7B43D58 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:40:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from anb (anb.matik.com.br [200.152.83.34]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k1O8eWDA065552; Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:40:32 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:40:30 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <43FCEF9C.5050308@bluelight.org.uk> <43FEBD56.4040200@gneto.com> In-Reply-To: <43FEBD56.4040200@gneto.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200602240540.31546.joao@matik.com.br> X-Filter-Version: 1.11a (msrv.matik.com.br) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88, clamav-milter version 0.87 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: AMD 64 stability X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:40:35 -0000 On Friday 24 February 2006 05:01, Martin Nilsson wrote: > > And it's here where it usually fails when you fill the board with 2GB > modules. The Chinese server-wannabee manufacturers products just can't > handle the load that these modules puts on the system. They are very > much aware of it, but their tech support never admits that it's their > crappy motherboard designs that causes the stability problems, instead > the come up with all sorts of strange excuses and finally closes all > support requests with: "not able to reproduce here - no fault" > > the deciding factor what is "crappy" often points out the buyers wallet at = the=20 end because for sure you can't get high tech stuff for a dollar or two so when you buy a MB for US70 and pay US50/GB you may not get what another = one=20 gets using a reliable server board with correct ECC/Reg memory, so when you= =20 buy cheap stuff you can not aspect to get a high reliable system you can see this already with S939 dualchannel boards which simply crash if= =20 you do not use real good dualchannel modules faster the processor is more sensitive the sitem is to all other components= =20 and for that they put big wheels on the fun cars to smoke more than only=20 once ;) Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br