From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 9 9:32:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA3914BE1 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:32:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tera.com) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [207.224.230.169]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19607; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA25155; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 09:32:30 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Nate Cc: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, debian-user@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: FreeLinux (Debian/GNU BSD) Message-ID: <19990709093230.A22961@athena.tera.com> References: <199907091429.HAA25261@deal1.bogs.org> <19990709091714.C973@laptop.ompages.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95us In-Reply-To: <19990709091714.C973@laptop.ompages.com>; from Nate on Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 09:17:14AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 09:17:14AM -0700, Nate wrote: > GO AGS! > > I'm a UCD alum. Now I'm a law student in Sacramento. Cool. > > I'll be going to the Linux Users Group of Davis next Tuesday. > > See http://www.lugod.org for time and place. > > First off, if you are really interested in this project, you > should take a look at the mailing list archives at www.debian.org. > > There was a pretty long thread a few months ago, where debian > linux developers discussed incorporating the the FreeBSD kernel > into the debian software distribution. > > There is already Debian/GNU Linux, and Debian/GNU HURD. I believe > there may be people working on this now. I for one, would welcome > a debian distribution based on the freebsd kernel. > > I've used both freebsd and debian linux and I see the following problems > with each. > > 1. FreeBSD's kernel kicks ass, but the ports system is not nearly > as sophisticated as the debian .deb package format. > > 2. Debian Linux's package format kicks ass, but the linux kernel > is not nearly as stable as the freebsd kernel (IMHO). If we could combine > the .deb package format with the freebsd kernel, I do believe one would > have absolutely the most stable, most versatile, most sophisticated > operating system on the whole damn planet. If you are a developer > (I'm not so I've settled on debian, but I monitor freebsd's progress), > I do not believe it would be too monumental of a task to port debian > packages over to freebsd's kernel. I would probably be a simple matter > of recompiling the packages and altering a few debian .diff files. I would > help if I had some guidance, (cause I have 5 computers so I have machines > to compile on). If you are interested, lets get something going. I live > only 20 miles away from you and we could meet at lugod meetings. > > I'm going to forward this message over to the debian lists... > > Hope to hear from you soon. > > nate > This all sounds great, uniting Debian and BSD (FreeBSD, say) --- I ran Debian for several months before putting FBSD on both my systems. The thing is: the organization and the effort (work!) required. Anybody out there with a few thousand hours to spare? gary > On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 07:29:31AM -0700, Greg Shenaut wrote: > > I've not used Linux, but I've been told that there is considerable > > difference among the several principal variants. Once a bunch of > > user software has been installed over the net, from the user's > > point of view (and to some extent, the adminstrator's), is FreeBSD > > more or less different from the Linux variants as they are from > > each other? And if the answer is that they are all pretty similar, > > then perhaps a customized version of FreeBSD could be prepared that > > emphasizes the similarities, distributed as FreeLinux or LinuxBSD. > > (I'm thinking in terms of a FreeBSD kernel with a Linux API in > > front, a reshuffled directory hierarchy, and several of the more > > prominent Linux applications--sort of a Linux emulation on steroids.) > > > > Why? You ask, "Why?!" > > > > I'm curious as to how many users would be attracted to a product > > incorporating the "Linux" handle, plus greater out-of-the box Linux > > compatibility, compared to more or less the same thing without it. > > > > After all, > > What's in a name? That which we call a rose > > By any other name would smell as sweet. > > > > -Greg Shenaut > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > -- > _ > NatePuri ("natedawg") o m p a g e s . c o m > Certified Law Student p e r c r v t i o f i > McGeorge School of Law e d i c a e a n m n > Sacramento, CA n i v e t r y m d > publisher@ompages.com a a s e y s t u s > n8fs0n@softcom.net t s d o h n > http://www.ompages.com e n i i > UIN: 43371366 e s t > y > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message