From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 4 07:08:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD7916A417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 07:08:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@www.svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (www.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4748413C465 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 07:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@www.svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (eugen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1478WYm000724; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:08:32 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen@www.svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: (from eugen@localhost) by www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m1478Wvq000723; Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:08:32 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:08:32 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20080204070832.GA97372@svzserv.kemerovo.su> References: <47A69A66.2080109@micom.mng.net> <20080204063023.GA91789@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <47A6B2AB.2060308@micom.mng.net> <20080204065122.GA92674@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080204065122.GA92674@eos.sc1.parodius.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Ganbold , FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: Re: /dev/cuad0: Device busy X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:08:37 -0000 > Personally, I never understood the concept of "dial-in" and "call-out" > devices on FreeBSD. I ran BBS software for years on both Apple II > hardware and PC hardware; there was no distinction between such devices. > A serial port is a serial port. Chances are I'm not understanding why > there's a distinction, but there doesn't appear to be any explanation of > why there's a distinction within manpages or the handbook... The distinction exists to allow an application to wait on the "dial-in" port for incoming calls and another application to make outgoing call mean time using the same port as "call-out" while the port is idle. Eugene Grosbein