From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 21 20:02:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97F016A4CE for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:02:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7138643D48 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:02:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D39388E10 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:02:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:02:54 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <9E3D30044A5228599E94960B@utd49554.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050420191559.06cd0368@localhost> References: <20050419043330.GA92736@xor.obsecurity.org> <6.2.1.2.2.20050419203347.05bed918@localhost> <20050420120120.9D06.REES@ddcom.co.jp> <6.2.1.2.2.20050420170705.06dc6050@localhost> <4266ECBB.6000703@daleco.biz> <6.2.1.2.2.20050420191559.06cd0368@localhost> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Can't build ports on older FreeBSD machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:02:55 -0000 --On Wednesday, April 20, 2005 07:20:24 PM -0600 Brett Glass wrote: > > I consult with, and provide service to, quite a few sysadmins > at small companies. Most of them won't bother to fix a FreeBSD > system that's gone awry like that; they'll just reinstall. They > do not have the time to investigate the subtleties of what went > wrong. Then they're not sysadmins. Their box maintainers. If you really want to do a good job of consulting, you should recommend, when they format the box, that they install an OS they know something about. Trying to "sysadmin" OSes you are ignorant of is simply asking for trouble. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu