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Date:      Wed, 9 Nov 2022 21:40:39 +0100
From:      "Patrick M. Hausen" <pmh@hausen.com>
To:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>, tsoome@freebsd.org, Li-Wen Hsu <lwhsu@freebsd.org>, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: changes to the zfs boot (was: Re: git: 72a1cb05cd23 - main - rc(8): Add a zpoolupgrade rc.d script)
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References:  <202211070339.2A73dJlO027991@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20221107121514.Horde.nulS9Wg1s3yzAsXXkuJRBa9@webmail.leidinger.net> <CANCZdfrdc%2BDbv6sDyDLcWNpXnWScEmpUsGu3q8%2BMbZRjDS8eig@mail.gmail.com> <20221108105053.Horde.eqgFiBJe2ngGAj6BkXcv5-Z@webmail.leidinger.net> <20221109134610.Horde.JB7ibQTWprHbmIUfhg7JY7f@webmail.leidinger.net> <CANCZdfptmipq%2BsS0AQ1%2B7EmLT-7YdKv8s%2BnCV7ON1Qy6-C6N9A@mail.gmail.com> <460205F9-5D59-4033-813B-C34E01BFD6C4@hausen.com> <20221109204509.Horde.lh5parVrWDSJ7kQCFa64hqe@webmail.leidinger.net> <5AFBB434-BB3B-4B5A-AB32-11DAFD03A2AD@hausen.com> <20221109205846.Horde.Rm5dcHB7p4mSbfFmxReYEDW@webmail.leidinger.net> <6C570897-1C17-43EF-A19C-0F50DA2669B0@hausen.com> <20221109211523.Horde.3dLzlxI4V6n_crjLsz_d08E@webmail.leidinger.net> <63316DBD-FFB7-44BA-ADD3-CACBE715518D@hausen.com> <20221109213149.Horde.hR9YpUCQ4NbOZcsX1JxqBgu@webmail.leidinger.net>

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Hi,

> Am 09.11.2022 um 21:31 schrieb Alexander Leidinger =
<Alexander@leidinger.net>:
> Some features are used directly when enabled. Some features go back to =
the enabled state when some conditions are met. Some features are not =
reversible without re-creating the pool (e.g. device_removal). The =
zzpool-features man-page gives explanations which features belong into =
which category.

I already knew most of this, too - but thanks for bringing it to my =
attention again.

If I have to check each individual feature with respect to its =
"bootability" in the future that
is really bad news given that I have about a hundred servers to manage.

So let me shortly describe our use case.

I run servers hosting jails. I upgrade them e.g. like this:

13.1
13.2
13.3
14.1
...

The "habit" that I cited is to upgrade the zpools to match the release. =
We use
freebsd-update and in the rare cases where we don't we track releng/x.y.

We do not run main/head in production.

Can I be confident about upgrading my pools or not? Modulo bugs, but we =
have
test systems, of course.

Kind regards,
Patrick=



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