From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 14:43:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0AB16A4CE for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 14:43:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from odot.okladot.state.ok.us (odot.okladot.state.ok.us [192.149.244.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B18043D1D for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 14:43:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@techpc04.okladot.state.ok.us) Received: from notes9c.okladot.state.ok.us (notes9a.okladot.state.ok.us [10.36.36.31])QAA14288; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:43:30 -0600 Received: from techpc04.okladot.state.ok.us ([199.27.9.37]) by notes9c.okladot.state.ok.us (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.12) with ESMTP id 2004030916435329:129054 ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:43:53 -0600 Received: by techpc04.okladot.state.ok.us (Postfix, from userid 0) id 9C55B5C2B; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:43:48 -0600 (CST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Paul Seniura" Errors-To: "Paul Seniura" Message-Id: <20040309224348.9C55B5C2B@techpc04.okladot.state.ok.us> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:43:48 -0600 (CST) X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on Notes9c/ODOT(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 03/09/2004 04:43:53 PM,2003) at 03/09/2004 04:43:54 PM, Serialize complete at 03/09/2004 04:43:54 PM cc: Paul Seniura Subject: I have some questions about telnet/telnetd/libtelnet/tn3270 and why FreeBSD is different than other BSDs in this regard X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Seniura List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 22:43:31 -0000 Hi y'all, I've been digging into the port net/tn3270 since I volunteered to maintain it ;) . I have some questions, now, after I did some searches on Google.com to try locating the 'official' Berkeley stuff (our src trees have it branded on just about everything y'know ;) . I'm wondering what historical moves were done to the src that builds FreeBSD's telnet command and telnetd daemon, because now they do not match other BSDs (AFAICS). This is the crux of my perplextion. It seems NetBSD and OpenBSD continue to include telnet+telnetd+tn3270 together under one subdir as part of /src/usr.bin -- but FreeBSD moved only the telnet[d] pieces to /src/contrib/telnet and eliminated the tn3270 pieces completely. (I haven't dug too deep yet in the libtelnet tree, which is one piece that FreeBSD does retain as other BSDs have it. But for right now let's stick to the command & daemon parts.) I'm seriously debating in my head whether FreeBSD should add back the tn3270 pieces to /src/contrib/telnet so that we can match the other BSDs albeit in the 'contrib' subtree. I know NetBSD has sheared away from FreeBSD, but they have kept their telnet subtree updated and along the lines of original BSD. Same with OpenBSD, even tho the files on their mirrors look even 'newer' than NetBSD's. There was a humongous commit some months ago, I believe to NetBSD's srcs, to get rid of the 'Berkeley' branding and several lines of Berkeley's licensing (legal) wording. That huge commit touched most of src _everywhere_. That commit's Log entry was specifically mentioning Berkeley's disbanding of the agreements back in 1999. Not even the 'lint' #ifdef is in there anymore for NetBSD (but OpenBSD has retained them). I'll stop right here before asking anything else, wanting to see if anyone here at FreeBSD can explain what has happened and why 'we' are so different than 'them'. ;) Thank you very much. -- Paul Seniura System Specialist State of Okla. D.O.T.