From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 22 10:11:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC1016A41F for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:11:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3B3D43D48 for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 10:11:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 May 2006 10:11:48 -0000 Received: from p50911DCF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO m2a2.dyndns.org) [80.145.29.207] by mail.gmx.net (mp029) with SMTP; 22 May 2006 12:11:48 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210542006BF for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 12:11:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from m2a2.dyndns.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (m2a2.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12751-20 for ; Mon, 22 May 2006 12:11:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 9419F200B91; Mon, 22 May 2006 12:11:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Matthias Andree To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44714FBB.4000603@samsco.org> (Scott Long's message of "Sun, 21 May 2006 23:44:27 -0600") References: <4471361B.5060208@freebsd.org> <20060521231657.O6063@abigail.angeltread.org> <44714FBB.4000603@samsco.org> X-PGP-Key: http://home.pages.de/~mandree/keys/GPGKEY.asc Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 12:11:11 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at emma.line.org X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: port vs. packages vs. FreeBSD updating (was: FreeBSD Security Survey) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:11:53 -0000 Scott Long writes: > I share this frustration with you. I was once told that the pain in > upgrading is due largely to a somewhat invisible difference between > installing a pre-compiled package, and building+installing a port. Well, the last time I saw this as a major issue was when people were innocently attempting to install packages fetched from packages-6-stable .tbz with rcNG scripts, that already expected a 6.1 base system (rcorder(8) migration) on 6\.0-RELEASE(-p.*)? - this failed horribly for some users with services not being started since the new rcNG script naming wasn't at the time supported by the base system. These issues did not ever affect, AFAICS, building ports from source -- however, doing this requires a lot of machine horsepower. Regardless of the creation of a stable ports branch, I'd URGE to add "minimum and maximum OSVERSION required" tags to packages to prevent their being installed on incompatible systems. -- Matthias Andree