From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Apr 21 07:59:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19160 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 07:59:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19147 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:59:45 GMT (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul9.u.washington.edu (root@saul9.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.7]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA45396; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 07:59:43 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul9.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA22944; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 07:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 06:58:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: niels cc: "'advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Make it easier to install In-Reply-To: <21A0017DA77FD111B9F2004F4900FC83C484@DBNT> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, niels wrote: > As a Linux user I find it hard to install the additional > packages within FreeBSD 2.2.5. If you find FreeBSD packages hard to install then you probably dont know about pkg_add or the ports collection. This is as easy as it gets. /usr/ports/security/pgp $ make /usr/ports/security/pgp $ make install Voila! Or even easier, run '/stand/sysinstall' and choose your new software from a menu. > I mean packages like TCL and WISH should be automaticly > installed in the right directories. Many programs which use the Pkg_add does install things in the right directory. OBTW. What on earth is WISH/TCL? (My point in asking is that _I_ don't think it is important as you might think. I don't have a single TCL app on my box. I don't need TCL, yet.) > GNU Toolkit (= TCL and WISH) can't find the librarys and header > files. Many sourcecode which don't use the GNU Toolkit libs can't > find the standard libs and header files. I never, ever have had one of those "Can't find lib..." messages. Never. > Also Install the FVMW package automaticly and some other utilities > as m-tools and Midnight Commander. No, don't install FVWM, Install enlightenment. No, install FVWM95. No... I do agree that there is some advantage to having a machine run a GUI right out of the box. This might go far to advance the user base of FreeBSD. Which one? FVWM is a nightmare to configure. You want to scare a newbie? Tell them to figure out how to change the background color in FVWM. KDE is simpler in this respect and would be a better newbie GUI. > FreeBSD is already hard to configure, so make it easier to install > certain packages automaticly. It does this too. When you do the install there is a simple menu to choose how much you want installed. There are 1,345 pieces of software for FreeBSD. Every indivudual has their own idea about what is important. FreeBSD gives YOU the choice of how to configure your system. I prefer not to have someone elses idea of how my system should be set up thrust upon me. I feel FreeBSD makes it very simple to do post install configuration. Have fun, | Stop warning me about the latest virus. Learn more... Jason Wells | http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message