From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 3 16:47:34 2009 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A717910656D5 for <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org>; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:47:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7E58FC08 for <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org>; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:47:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id KSY75833; Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:47:33 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 6A7B81CC27; Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:47:33 -0800 (PST) To: Robert Noland <rnoland@FreeBSD.org> In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:29:39 EST." <1233674980.1492.103.camel@ferret.2hip.net> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:47:33 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net> Message-Id: <20090203164733.6A7B81CC27@ptavv.es.net> X-Sender-IP: 198.128.4.29 X-Sender-Domain: es.net X-Recipent: <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org>; <rnoland@FreeBSD.org>; <seba.bsd@sinux.net>; X-Sender: <oberman@es.net> X-To_Name: Robert Noland X-To_Domain: freebsd.org X-To: Robert Noland <rnoland@FreeBSD.org> X-To_Email: rnoland@FreeBSD.org X-To_Alias: rnoland Cc: Sebastien Chassot <seba.bsd@sinux.net>, FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: xorg 7.4 keyboard localisation (xorg.conf vs hal) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:47:35 -0000 > From: Robert Noland <rnoland@FreeBSD.org> > Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:29:39 -0500 > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 15:07 +0100, Sebastien Chassot wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 16:05 -0500, Robert Noland wrote: > > > On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 12:43 -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote: > > > > Robert Noland wrote: > > > > > > > > > > man xorg.conf search for Input... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This provides absolutely no help. > > > > > > > > I look at my /var/log/Xorg.0.log and it tells me nothing. If I remove > > > > the keyboard and mouse input devices from xorg.conf, the log tells me > > > > that it is disabling all input devices and never says anything else. > > > > There is no evidence that hal does anything that X want to know about. > > > > How would I detect that my configuration file needs changing? Is there > > > > a message in Xorg.0.log to look for? Is there a help file somehwere > > > > which explains how to change your configuration file to allow hal to work? > > > > > > > > I cannot find any information anywhere in the system to allow me to > > > > debug my problems in any way. I want to have fully automatic > > > > configuration using whatever means will allow it. You explanations > > > > about the mysterious behavior of hal and xorg do not give me any > > > > information I can use in any way to solve my problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Set Options "AutoAddDevices" "off" and you have to configure everything > > > > > like you used to. > > > > > > > > > I WANT to use the new facilities. Is it possible to debug my > > > > configuration problems? Where do I start? How do I enable this magical > > > > new world of letting hal do things for me? What changes do I make to > > > > xorg.conf to allow this? > > > > > > Ok, are you using gdm, xdm, or startx? > > > > > > You need to ensure that dbus and hald are running first. Set > > > dbus_enable="YES" and hald_enable="YES" in your rc.conf. > > > > This FAQ says to remplace dbus/hal by gnome_enable="YES" > > Correct, if you using gnome, that will enable hal and dbus. Unfortunately, gnome_enable also gives you gdm which is something I really won't put up with. It seems like Gnome is more determined to force gdm use with every release. startx(1) LIVES! -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751