From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Oct 18 11:02:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19213 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:02:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19208 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:02:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA01182 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 13:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA08216 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 13:53:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199810181753.NAA08216@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: Don't bet on 3.0 release In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19981018114951.00723bc8@etinc.com> from Dennis at "Oct 18, 98 11:49:54 am" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 13:53:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dennis recently said: > At 10:37 AM 10/18/98 -0400, Bill Vermillion wrote: > >Greg Lehey recently said: > >Well there was plenty of notice/warning about 3.0 being the first > >cut and was to be for experimentors and early adopters. I got a > >notice on my subscription about 2 months ago - and they suggested > >that you wait until at least 3.1 for a production environment. > >Installing a new release on a production system within days of its' > >release always has the chance of being dicey. No matter how much > >you beta test something still seems to come out that was missed. > -RELEASE implies that its ready for the general public. If its > still in BETA, which your comments indicate it is, then it should > not be released. What's the point of doing a release if its not > ready? Well I have been doing beta testing on a Unix release (not FreeBSD) for a couple of months. Guess what - when it went into general production - and the final CDs were pressed - not the Kodak writable CDs we were getting as beta tester- a few more bugs popped up. You can test everything for all pieces of hardware - because someone will always find a combination that is not tested, or a keystroke combination that was not tested for, etc. About the only programming that normally seems to be bulletproof - at least in more cases than not - are the OSes and control programs in ROMs for embedded controls. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message