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Date:      Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:22:49 +0100
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "P.U.Kruppa" <ulrich@pukruppa.net>
Cc:        freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Experiences with RELENG_7
Message-ID:  <472462F9.7010308@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20071028060318.W1571@small>
References:  <20071027202252.GA40377@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4723CD55.5090307@FreeBSD.org> <20071028000917.GC47576@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4723DB8F.8060407@FreeBSD.org> <20071028060318.W1571@small>

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P.U.Kruppa wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
>> Roland Smith wrote:
>>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 01:44:21AM +0200, Kris Kennaway wrote:
>>>> Roland Smith wrote:
>>>>> Hovewer, sometimes a program seems to hog the CPU for a couple of
>>>>> seconds (as seen in top(1))
>>>> Can you please explain (with supporting paste of command output) 
>>>> what you mean by this?
>>>
>>> I'll save some top output next time. But what happened was this; all of
>>> a sudden the mouse pointer started moving erratically, and the music
>>> playing in audacious started skipping. All other X programs started
>>> responding erratically as well. It looked like the X server wasn't
>>> getting any CPU time.
> I can see that happening during portupgrade on my 7.0-BETA1 FreeBSD 
> 7.0-BETA1 #0: Sat Oct 27 04:15:22 CEST 2007 amd64 UP-machine as well. 
> Situation has been improved by using
> SCHED_ULE instead of SCHED_4BSD .

Yes, so this is a different problem again.  People have reported this 
problem with 4BSD, but I don't think it is understood.  Just to confirm, 
since we're discussing ULE here do you see this problem with ULE?

>>> It also happened with cc1 when I was compiling a port. In that case the
>>> situation returned to normal when that particular instance was
>>> finished. That compilation was running in a terminal window that was
>>> iconified at the time.
>>
>> This may be unrelated.  The new version of gcc has higher memory 
>> requirements, and it is common for it to access swap during 
>> compilation when the system is also busy running other tasks.  If you 
>> see it happening with cc again, make sure to check this.
> My swap space remains untouched, I have got 2 GB of RAM.
> 
> Is there - perhaps - some way to tune down gcc's CPU greediness?

That isn't really the right solution :)

Kris




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