From nobody Wed Nov 9 21:11:29 2022 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4N6yM7636Gz4d94T for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 21:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmh@hausen.com) Received: from mail2.pluspunkthosting.de (mail2.pluspunkthosting.de [217.29.33.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4N6yM73FrSz4Kct; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 21:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmh@hausen.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from smtpclient.apple (87.138.185.145) by mail2.pluspunkthosting.de (Axigen) with (ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) ESMTPSA id 0CDED7; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 22:11:29 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.1\)) Subject: Re: changes to the zfs boot (was: Re: git: 72a1cb05cd23 - main - rc(8): Add a zpoolupgrade rc.d script) From: "Patrick M. Hausen" In-Reply-To: <20221109220540.Horde.6GRfN8bbUC4AsLcvjhWbUgm@webmail.leidinger.net> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2022 22:11:29 +0100 Cc: Warner Losh , Mark Millard , tsoome@freebsd.org, Li-Wen Hsu , current@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <65689194-1F56-4429-9A52-794A8354D995@hausen.com> References: <202211070339.2A73dJlO027991@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <20221107121514.Horde.nulS9Wg1s3yzAsXXkuJRBa9@webmail.leidinger.net> <20221108105053.Horde.eqgFiBJe2ngGAj6BkXcv5-Z@webmail.leidinger.net> <20221109134610.Horde.JB7ibQTWprHbmIUfhg7JY7f@webmail.leidinger.net> <460205F9-5D59-4033-813B-C34E01BFD6C4@hausen.com> <20221109220540.Horde.6GRfN8bbUC4AsLcvjhWbUgm@webmail.leidinger.net> To: Alexander Leidinger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4N6yM73FrSz4Kct X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16188, ipnet:217.29.32.0/20, country:DE] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hi, > Am 09.11.2022 um 22:05 schrieb Alexander Leidinger = : > Attention, "upgrade" is overloaded here. "OS upgrade" will not render = the pool unbootable (modulo bugs), but "zpool upgrade rpool" will = (except we have provisions that zpool upgrade doesn't enable all = features in case the bootfs property is set). And we are back at the start. The "problem" is that I really like = consistency. So when "zpool status" throws that ominous message at me - any you have to admit that it is phrased like a warning - I want simply to get rid of = that. After a reasonable after-update grace period. But during our discussion I have come to wonder: - I upgrade from 13.0 to 13.1, I do a "zpool upgrade" afterwards, I also = upgrade the boot loader - I install 13.1 with ZFS What is the difference? Shouldn't these two imaginary systems be = absolutely the same in terms of ZFS features, boot loader, and all that? Kind regards, Patrick=