From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 14:59:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2C216A4CF for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:59:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from athena.softcardsystems.com (mail.softcardsystems.com [12.34.136.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEAE43D5F for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:59:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sah@softcardsystems.com) Received: from athena (athena [12.34.136.114])i8FFxask021402 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:59:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:59:36 -0500 (EST) From: Sam X-X-Sender: sah@athena To: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41483C97.2030303@fer.hr> Message-ID: References: <41483C97.2030303@fer.hr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 14:59:55 -0000 On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Ivan Voras wrote: > It looks like Sun is going to obsolete their UFS: > http://www.sun.com/2004-0914/feature/?biga=15 > > Any comments? Anybody tried it yet? > It seems like they have built on and extented concepts presented by geom and > softupdates. > > Sun's been using a lot of ideas present in FreeBSD: jails, linux "emulation", > and now this, and extended them nicely into their "enterprise-grade" idea. It > would be interesting to try it in action :) > "Sun engineers wondered if the 64-bit capabilities of current file systems will continue to suffice over the next 10 to 20 years. Their answer was no. If Moore's Law holds, in 10 to 15 years people will need a 65th bit. As a 128-bit system, ZFS is designed to support more storage, more file systems, more snapshots, more directory entries, and more files than can possibly be created in the foreseeable future." Call me crazy, but does anyone else see this as hooey? 2^64 512B sectors is 8192 zettabytes (zetta, exa, peta, tera, ...). I'm also wondering what perversion of moore's law is applicable to storage consumption. Crappy marketing articles. Sam