From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 13 00:47:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7931065673 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:47:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57F58FC1A for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:47:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so921320wfd.7 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:47:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QEnjW0nhApJDnCnb8Gl6/CKjHwZFkWPt7Evk2HtJ+IM=; b=GMm1X9O5u31xj2/BwAwNXKad9+P22I7i6DcNNSEPHEi4rRQ+5GS+ILLoPrifichOx1 dnpSZ732hqTu+4J/adpzTxlFouigvfUIj6zV+0DJ002JzKz7yI6sCZKAOtXlGY/2bO8R rSd7DeXoDUVLPxH1GaXZC4ShSJgM4FbbL+qeI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TBNd9BJBhfw2e/QXy7stPGPisFEaOXQWFCiq4aS16ky9PuuYpfOge5Ny1nu9XR7iKt UTs3yxSO+biAmx7Kl6MAAQ66eezCBNinUcsOyldAzfmI9lZnw5kHLilBu5PKd9Hd9M8Y bPBNEvHpOOGO0I5iLrKc1ZOUDkOFUfaW/n0pY= Received: by 10.142.11.20 with SMTP id 20mr703642wfk.62.1234486034040; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:47:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.4.44? (c-68-35-57-46.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.57.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm1086692wfi.21.2009.02.12.16.47.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:47:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4994C2F0.6070605@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:46:40 -0700 From: Tim Judd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <1234423939.27702.4.camel@ethos> <20090212101453.I81232@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090212105424.a710de5e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090212141444.W81609@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4994919E.3000803@gmail.com> <20090212235111.D97916@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20090212235111.D97916@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , Polytropon , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: How-to erase a DVD-RW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:47:15 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> which is exactly what i suggested - writing 0 byte disc >> >> >> that writes binary 0, the ASCII "NUL" character. /dev/zero is NOT a >> zero-size file. > > yes it is > > [wojtek@wojtek ~/NOBACKUP]$ dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/null bs=1 > 0+0 records in > 0+0 records out > 0 bytes transferred in 0.000037 secs (0 bytes/sec) > > > /dev/null simply gives EOF when trying to read we're not talking about null we're talking about zero Try again, maybe?