From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Feb 6 20:04:29 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93F62390A9 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 20:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic307-54.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic307-54.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [87.248.110.31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48D8XX56vzz4c4X for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 20:04:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: foIjo_MVM1lDM1.evj0i4UxYxPmBQZMh33YbfRhigVMXTGrI1PWh.BE0vyUcQ0D 294tlyiAMj9H3DlZrsCjtt0BN4UbQL7KMn85AeytBVyl7ZOvPeSeRGIvjsImOieQqD9L0YcFlKiy .HgUgJLXca1YzkS9dQWxj7QLuuiDp4cnUBOB1qCQY_WOjIKld5u6cm76GRhk2OzY9Ifq0gJLaCzw eaUq1HkDKV0YRrtroISS6BolS0suF9WrKHGSYiKPFWIFJdft079QwXTl7WszWAc9mxotOa7TNXhw yV4vM3dPNVdzNQ7BZPMXyMMVST3ExeeiIMIQRxTelt6H4lEoBGpojUnul8wjx51XfyFL53nYp7EZ JAsAkNV69J5dmZIqv7HDCtGk6_foaunxYd0pMvobzbYRE9WZH7XRxBFgN1D7pTxRn7Cpn5j_3j5d 2dOVGzudRFL8IQoJkl37jwWoCtPYg_4upYHSm_XXW9ELpPYrzSBWAhhy6_ihCbH93GkBug9OfXYM eUCzMq6Jn_UvSWBxr5534b38r0j0koNPYwNBxxryLnylk._cyyBzdSwDCPO2ouqEvhqiF.Fd.Z6v Nzf7PcFXUynpI.IjbrINwUc9TcoyZMknl4kwKwuc1dY86.VRKUTFsszF4DZ0m6oahwrJGDfDwOJZ LZHswwyuW7E7Iivp6gSXhrv5UB5H4eaIDh7_jz5vNHtFSkkkGyejdnWDZVvl01Vf8ih9lld.9jQb u4PrG3AY19GSST3m21A4Z1tBAGOhcM8KDOQ0HCJx2fLbjO1oEsjhqpzqIKqcgr2Ndeyhl33hZTFz gN4K4b1yGnSlJ7ymqRMql7feRSS7LzQe_iapA.xRCn9EQu2hktALaQSM693XbCdgWHJ4PJcNYFlX GutUUWpj0DHyt48c0gOtoJXAKE3krArIJUrIewO2F7Yo5zb7sFJIsaMd.puxSadKlREvjhKKyE6z eg2XsynAgC9g1PJ0b2y3LsDTFZkB3YV7fegsA2G5XozSMVLLyRxx6zCAOXeQe82HYqH2YuKwWpQQ HOGGoDZ2OSe2GngGBPZMrVqaH4pHUn78.aVK9ilyFZfKWuj0jAV.9_GN04AgvKvTg234pBG0a7mt TgMNYHCtqfkrFXf64EVRrMJy1yYueVHLm8.3ZVBbO9l5madQu_D14avt12ca.irx_IX9FWV_V6S9 ImiMQIHfbcBdbyCmGwDPU.UisQ2ibumcRo7EeOCuXqfbBoAmuEGFQD_.UW8lUVb_vTX1Rg9GJsuG qAIKGhwJxD9s7Nn6fxifvI9r6g.M55AAnsJSbaaL0XxUOjjfNfH5ao8ARM9lsGbfxhJ5CyY01Vii GqzvtzVBVcv2TpWXXONgF_XbkRan3SH0PdadLf_22f3ZCq6YLkL2xjLY7Cql6JeYJJGzjhdhIJv7 9qSGrx5TResLf Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic307.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 20:04:26 +0000 Received: by smtp408.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 0276d4169a865033d0c48ea0c1d81423; Thu, 06 Feb 2020 20:04:22 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 21:04:23 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating BIOS Message-ID: <20200206210423.3ce5b7ba@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20200206205426.123ecbb1@archlinux> References: <20200206085845.7095d5af@scorpio> <20200206142137.40c130c8@scorpio> <20200206205426.123ecbb1@archlinux> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48D8XX56vzz4c4X X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.26 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.67)[0.673,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[31.110.248.87.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.08)[0.081,0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (5.59), ipnet: 87.248.110.0/24(2.36), asn: 34010(1.71), country: GB(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:87.248.110.0/24, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2020 20:04:29 -0000 On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 20:54:26 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 11:24:48 -0800, Martin Glazer wrote: >>Freedoms is the correct program. I use it. Good luck > >FreeDOS probably was required to update a PC BIOS, the time when I >didn't use a PC, but a C64 or Atari ST. IOW that was a long, long time >ago. I'm not aware of any 64 bit architecture PC, that requires >more than a FAT 32 formatted device, to update the BIOS or UEFI thingy. >IIRC I even updated a decades old 32 bit machine, just by using a FAT >32 partition. That time the computer just supported PATA (IDE), no SATA >and I still used a floppy disk for some purposes. AFAIK updates on even >relatively aged machines doesn't require an operating sytsem at all, it >could be done by the BIOS and a FAT 32 partitioned device. It's just >important to read the vendor's hints. Sometimes updating from a very >old release to the latest release might brick the machine, it might >be required to upgrade from one release to another and IIRC sometimes >it could be impossible to downgrade, if an upgrade should suffer from a >regression. FreeDOS is not a program, it's an operating system. For my Atari ST's 80286 hardware emulator I used DR-DOS [ https://i.imgur.com/lx5pucp.jpg ].