From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 05:35:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46A4106566C for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 05:35:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C148FC1D for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 05:35:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m665Yx6r096818; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 22:35:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "Gary Kline" Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 22:36:21 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <539c60b90807021447s152bd3a9n164b88b49e3c568f@mail.gmail.com> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Chad Perrin , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: RE: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:35:06 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Steve Franks > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:47 PM > To: Gary Kline > Cc: Wojciech Puchar; Chad Perrin; FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Re: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia? > > > You know, the Wikipedia is crap argument is becoming tiresome. Maybe > they should have picked a different name. It is not a research tool. > However, I use it daily when someone mentions Microsoft's latest TLA, > or my daughter wants to see a picture of a blue whale, or I forget > what port subversion needs open in my firewall, or the webpage & > market cap for some obscure company. I consider it to be like the > browseable companion to google search. Steve, the problem is that for decades the print encyclopedias fulfilled this function. Have you ever, for example, seen a cite to World Book or some such in a serious professional reseach paper? Of course not. They never used it. The vast majority of people buying those print encyclopedias were folks like you who were using them for casual searches. The reason the academic research community is so up in arms over wikipedia is that all the folks like you stopped buying the print encyclopedias when wiki came out, and the encyclopedia publishers have all gone out of business. Your no longer paying some academic gatekeeper and the academics, for all their talk about information freedom, don't like it. Check out tuition recently? Now tell me college is available to any student who wants it. Yeah, right. The academics want their pound of flesh and they don't like the competition. Ted