From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 12 17:54:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E8F1065670 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D108FC13 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so1293975bwz.3 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:54:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5X3tNT+5gsYuknZO0vT5CuiPI/iJD5jz/JTPUkzU40Q=; b=Se5IlivraZsMweGzGJUzs8VSJTqrL4FI6e1zPhwVl18Z4AuE4c04Dbfx5wV96hQUP0 /tjweI5d43dTG1jrTdT7HLsptVxT3A3tktZ+Qoe/4BVXi5lD2ikReAibb1ogMcZIPObz l78xu7IRi8d+9JXHMamOwsWzihJa5g761QyE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oNZA92i5bAQbo4lKFwfQeDMpkQfH5ESX9M4SkSDMK2ddpb14nOSl56+Hm86bs1bB0d N3NRDdbt/iwRETWk7EDSTvoChBw/zGBROhjNK9bs0T8r5zfR/p3668vSw5eDtjqhE7s4 4jpr21U5RLQNjco/MKKwN9YE9BeHGxww3ua3c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.14.82 with SMTP id f18mr1574949bka.204.1260640456124; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:54:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20091211232356.309C21CC09@ptavv.es.net> References: <4B2207A6.7070204@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20091211232356.309C21CC09@ptavv.es.net> From: Chris Rees Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:53:56 +0000 Message-ID: To: Kevin Oberman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:54:18 -0000 2009/12/11 Kevin Oberman : >> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:49:42 +0000 >> From: Matthew Seaman >> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org >> >> Polytropon wrote: >> > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:42:36 -0600, "Sam Fourman Jr." wrote: >> >> I have tried looking around and OpenBSD appears to be the undisputed >> >> #1 track record in terms of security and FreeBSD is #2 (I didn't coun= t >> >> dragonflyBSD) >> > >> > VMS would be #0, then? :-) >> >> I dunno. =A0Haven't seen many MS-DOS exploits recently either... > > I'm sure that there are systems happily running MSDOS, but I bet not too > many are networked. > > I know that there is still a lot of VMS out there and that it has > remained a cash cow for HP. It lived on primarily in the banking and > financial sector, though I guess the use is dropping since HP recently > outsourced support to India and that lead to the retirement of the last > of the original VMS developers, Andy Goldstein. > > Also, the the end of TECO as Andy was responsible for porting it to > almost every platform DEC ever sold (RSX, RSTS, VMS, TOPS-10 and > TOPS-20, RT-11, and several others) and continued to maintain it until > his retirement. (Most readers of this list probably don't even remember > TECO.) > > And, for may years VMS had major network security problems, especially > the infamous default DECNET/DECNET account that lead to may compromises > and the second major network worm, Worms Against Nuclear Killers. (I > won't use the acronym so as not to offend our British readers. I found > out about that when the BBC interviewed me about it and I was told that > I could not utter the word.) Wow, I didn't know your side don't use that word... I thought I knew about all the stereotypically British ones! Do you guys have any curses or insults at all??? Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list?