From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 15 02:52:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DE416A4CE for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 02:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.des.no (flood.des.no [217.116.83.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C9F43D55 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 02:52:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id DFCC8530C; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:52:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.228.37]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id BAA365309; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:52:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id A34BE33C6C; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:52:22 +0200 (CEST) To: "Peter Leftwich" References: <12586.63.109.229.22.1081967765.squirrel@webmail.alienwebshop.com> From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:52:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: <12586.63.109.229.22.1081967765.squirrel@webmail.alienwebshop.com> (Peter Leftwich's message of "Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:36:05 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on flood.des.no X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.63 cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: sdbug@sdbug.org Subject: Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:52:31 -0000 "Peter Leftwich" writes: > * webcam ball see for instance /usr/ports/graphics/vid > * flatbed scanner see /usr/ports/graphics/sane-frontends > * color printer see for instance /usr/ports/print/cups > * digital cameras Most of those behave as USB mass-storage devices, see 'man umass' > * firewire devices see 'man firewire' > * several USB 1 and 2 devices Which ones? > * IM software features such as voice and video chat see /usr/ports/mbone/vic (though I haven't used it in six years) > * websites that use ActiveX (Windows) controls you'd be surprised how rare these are. > * MP3 devices Some of these use proprietary protocols, while others behave as USB or Firewire mass-storage devices. The latter are supported out of the box. For the former, there is for instance /usr/ports/audio/rio, or /usr/ports/audio/rio500 (in conjunction with the urio driver). DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no