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Date:      Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:52:22 -0500
From:      Michael Alwan <mjalwan@rma.edu>
To:        Sean-Paul Rees <magic@ulink.net>
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 3.0-CURRENT Branch,  "config" failure.
Message-ID:  <3.0.3.32.19980115235222.00913e80@rma.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980115190001.1895A-100000@bluefire>

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At 07:02 PM 1/15/1998 -0800, you wrote:
>Hewwo:
>
>Removing old directory ../../compile/rev1a-dragon.ulink.net:  Done.
>files.i386: i386/isa/npx.c must be optional or standard

>Unknown % construct in generic makefile: %VERSREQ=      300003
>Kernel build directory is ../../compile/rev1a-dragon.ulink.net
>
>

You need to rebuild config.  The %VERSREQ parameter is in the makefile to
ensure that you have the required version of config.  If you rebuild config
(or make world) before building the kernel, these messages will go away.
Change files.i386 back to "mandatory" too.

See attachment on keeping current--I have no idea if this FAQ is being
maintained or upgraded.

Been there in spades,

Michael
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Staying -current with FreeBSD                                       r2
======================================================================
                         Maintained by Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>

FreeBSD-current represents the bleeding edge of FreeBSD development. 
It's where all the new features, performance improvements and bugfixes 
are unleashed on the user community.  If you are interested in 
developing for FreeBSD, or just want the heady thrill of getting all 
the latest stuff first, -current is what you want.

FreeBSD-current changes daily, and like any new product it goes through
patches of instability and unreliability.  This is part and parcel of 
using -current; if you don't think you can deal with it, now is a good 
time to opt out.  A -release or -stable version will still give you 
excellent service, and with greatly improved dependability.

However, there are a lot of people that do run FreeBSD-current, and 
many use nothing else.  If you are serious about contributing to 
ongoing FreeBSD development, you may need to run -current too. 

In order to help new -current users, and old ones with bad habits, this 
is a guide to getting along with FreeBSD-current.

If you're having problems, check here first because if you don't, you
may find your (quite valid) complaint ignored simply because there's
not enough information for anyone to do anything about it, and you just 
might find the information you need to get you going again.

Notes
-----
If you're going to be running FreeBSD-current, it's assumed that 
you are reasonably familiar with FreeBSD.  No attempt will be made 
here to explain basic operating procedure or commands; if this sounds
too complicated then it probably is.

Command examples here should work with any shell.  Where there are
potential differences, an example of each form will be given.

Preparation
-----------
If you are not subscribed to the FreeBSD-current mailing list, you 
should do this first.  Running -current and not reading the mailing 
list is like driving at night with duct tape over your eyes and 
jellybeans in your ears; ie. not a good idea.

Another mailing list worth subscribing to is the cvs-all list.  Every
change made to the FreeBSD source tree is accompanied by a mail
message sent to this list.  These messages contain the name(s) of the
file(s) affected, the name of the person making the change, and a
description of the change itself.  Reading this list can provide
you with valuable insight into the directions that -current is taking,
as well as advance warning of possible problems or fixes.  There are
other cvs-* lists which may be more suitable, depending on your field
of interest.

Read the -current mailing list for a few days before starting with 
FreeBSD-current; it's possible that you might have picked a really bad
time to start.  If there are problems, people will be discussing them; 
wait for a resolution to be announced, or for other people to indicate 
that the problem has been solved.  If you're not sure after a few days, 
post a short message asking whether people think that it's OK to go
ahead.

As you become more familiar with the atmosphere and the people on 
-current, you will learn to judge what constitutes "really bad" and 
what is merely "interesting".  Remember that while FreeBSD-current is a 
development environment, the desired result is indeed a stable platform 
and if something is broken people will be working to fix it.

Starting
--------
Once you're subscribed to the -current mailing list, there are a couple 
of different ways to get FreeBSD-current onto your system.  Which is 
best for you will depend on your circumstances.

 - FTP: You can install a FreeBSD-current snapshot via FTP just like
   a release version.  FreeBSD-current snapshots are normally built daily
   and can be downloaded from ftp://current.freebsd.org/.  When 
   installing you can either start from scratch, or upgrade an existing
   system.

 - CDROM: Walnut Creek CDROM occasionally release a FreeBSD-current 
   snapshot CDROM, and other vendors may too.  These are generally a 
   bargain, as they come with a copy of the CVS repository which can 
   save you a lot of download time.  You can install from a snapshot 
   CDROM in exactly the same fashion as you would a release version.
   Be careful though; a snapshot more than a few months old may be just 
   as tough to upgrade from as a previous release.

 - Bootstrap: If you have the FreeBSD CVS repository on your system
   you can checkout a copy of the -current source tree and bootstrap 
   a previous release system.  You can also get the -current source 
   using CVSup or CTM (see below).  Bootstrapping may take a little 
   perseverance, but that's good practice for later.  Note that 
   bootstrapping from anything older than the most recent release is
   something best left to the truly adventurous.
   If you have problems bootstrapping and really can't get -current 
   going any other way then you should post a concise message to the 
   FreeBSD-current mailing list clearly detailing what you are trying 
   to do, the release you are bootstrapping from and any error 
   messages that you receive during the process.

Keeping -current
----------------
Once you have a -current system up and running, congratulations, it's
obsolete!  FreeBSD-current changes daily, and part of running a
-current system is keeping up to date.

There are two parts to keeping your system -current; getting the 
source, and building it.

You can obtain the source in two forms; either the raw source tree, or 
the CVS repository.  The former requires around 200MB of disk space, 
the latter perhaps twice times that; expect these values to grow with 
time.  The raw source tree is all that's required to build the source,
however the CVS repository is useful if you are interested in tracking or 
becoming involved with development.  In particular, the CVS repository 
can be invaluable if you are trying to locate a new problem.

There are two distribution strategies in common use for keeping your 
source up to date, named after the tools used to perform the updating: 
CVSup and CTM.

CVSup
'''''
CVSup replaces an older tool, 'sup' (the Source Update Protocol), and 
is the preferred method for tracking the -current source tree.  It 
requires an active network connection and provides guaranteed-accuracy 
updates of your CVS repository or checked-out source tree.  CVSup can 
also repair a damaged or modified repository or tree.

If you have a -stable or -current system up and running, sample control
files for CVSup are located in /usr/share/examples/cvsup.  You can get
CVSup itself from the FreeBSD ports collection.

CTM
'''
CTM can be interpreted as 'CVS Thru eMail'; it provides updates for 
your CVS repository or source tree via email messages.  CTM is ideal if 
your network connection is indirect, expensive or otherwise cannot 
support CVSup.

Documentation for the CTM programs is included with the system, start 
with 'man ctm', and check the handbook for more details.

Checking out with CVS
'''''''''''''''''''''
If you are fetching the CVS repository there is one important step 
required before you can build anything.  This is known as "checking 
out" the source; literally you will generate a complete copy of the 
-current source tree from the information in the repository.

The source tree can be anywhere, but the intermediate files 
generated during the build will be placed under /usr/obj.  If the 
filesystem containing /usr doesn't have ~150MB of free space, you will 
need to create a directory elsewhere and use a symbolic link.

To check out the source tree, go to where the 'src' directory is to be 
located and set the CVSROOT environment variable to point to the location
of your CVS repository.  Using a csh-like shell:

# setenv CVSROOT <path-to-repository>

or with an sh-like shell:

# export CVSROOT=<path-to-repository>

Then issue the command:

# cvs checkout src

This will create a directory 'src' and populate it with the source 
tree.  When the repository is updated by CVSup or CTM you can propagate 
the changes to this source tree by making the src directory your 
current directory and saying:

# cvs update -Pd

If you have been making changes to your source tree, CVS will try to
merge these changes with any updates it makes.  You should watch the 
output from the update command and note any merges; these should be
checked before you go any further to make sure they won't cause any
problems.  Identifying these merges is easier if you make CVS run
quieter, eg.

# cvs -q update -Pd

If in doubt, remove the file(s) in question and rerun the update,
which will replace them with fresh copies.

Building the World
''''''''''''''''''
Once you have your source tree checked out, make sure the 'src' tree is 
reachable as /usr/src, become root and change to the /usr/src directory.

Now is the time to select your build options.  If you've built the 
FreeBSD tree before, you will be familiar with these.  Options are set 
via environment variables, by editing /etc/make.conf, or by passing
them on the commandline when you build the tree.  We will use the last
method here.

To set an option when invoking 'make', specify its name as an argument to
the '-D' option, ie. to set the option VARIABLE, you would add 
'-DVARIABLE' to the 'make' commandline.

The common variables and their uses are:

 NOCLEAN	Do not clean out the old build tree.  This can save
		on build time, but may introduce subtle problems.

 NOSECURE	Do not build the export-restricted modules.  If you
		haven't downloaded the source for these, then you
		won't want to try to build them.  This is a good 
		option to use if you are not in the USA.

 NOGAMES	Don't rebuild the games.  If you don't have or want
		them installed, set this.

 NOSHARE	Don't rebuild /usr/share.  This can save some time,
		and if /usr/share (containing manpages, data files and
		examples) hasn't changed much it won't cause you any
		trouble.

 NOPROFILE	Don't build the profiling libraries.  If you're not 
		doing any development involving profiling, this can 
		save a considerable amount of time and space.  If you
		don't know what profiling libraries are, you don't
		want them.

Once your options are set, start the build.  It's generally a good idea 
to keep a record of the build, in case there are problems and you want 
to look over it.  There are two good ways to do this.  The first uses 
the 'script' command, which arranges a transcript of a session.  You 
would say:

# script
Script started, output file is typescript
# make world

When the build has finished, use 'exit' to close the script.

The second method runs the build in the background, and watches it with 
the 'tail' command.  The advantage of this method is that you can let 
the build run without having to watch it all the time; you can come 
back to check on it at your leisure.  To do this, you would say:

# make world >& makelog &
# tail -f makelog

You can hit ^C at any time to exit the 'tail' command, and then reissue 
it whenever you want to check on the build.

A world build transcript generated like this will generally be around 
the 7 megabyte mark; you should make sure you have space for it.

If you are unsure about whether the build will work, and would prefer
to make sure it builds properly before allowing it to install over
your running system, you can use the 'buildworld' rather than 'world'
target.  This will compile everything, but not install it.  Once you
are happy that the build has completed OK, you can invoke the
'installworld' target, which will install the built world.

If your 'buildworld' is failing on something that you think is trivial
you can add the '-k' option to the make command.  This will cause make
to continue after an error, rather than stopping the build.  If you
have built with '-k' you should examine the build log very carefully
before proceeding to install, as it is possible to make an enormous
mess like this.

Building the Kernel
'''''''''''''''''''
Changes in -current often require coordinated rebuilding of both the 
'world' (userland) and the kernel.  Normally you should build a new 
kernel after you have built the world, but before you reboot.  There 
are a couple of important points to bear in mind regarding the kernel:

 - The 'config' program is closely tied to the kernel.  It is normally 
   built as part of userland, but it can also be built manually with

# cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/config
# make depend all install clean clendepend

   Using an outdated 'config' program can cause strange errors when 
   configuring or building a kernel, althought 'config' does its best
   to determine whether it is out of date and complain accordingly.

 - The kernel and LKMs are closely related.  Mismatches can cause fatal 
   kernel errors or strange behaviour.  LKMs are also built as part of 
   userland, but can be regenerated and reinstalled with

# cd /usr/src/lkm
# make depend all install clean cleandepend

Note that both of these examples assume that your source tree is under
/usr/src; if you've put it elsewhere, adjust them accordingly.

Changes to -current may require matching changes in your kernel 
configuration file.  These are normally reflected in changes to the 
LINT or GENERIC files, and/or described in messages posted to the 
mailing list.

Once the kernel has been built and installed, reboot the system.  It is 
generally a good idea to do this at this point, in order to ensure that 
the running kernel and userland programs correspond.

When Things go Wrong
--------------------

Problems with FreeBSD-current can generally be divided into three 
groups:

 - It won't build.
 - It won't boot.
 - Something funny happens when...

It won't Build
''''''''''''''
If it won't build, and the reason isn't immediately obvious, there are 
several steps you should take.  Always remember to go through these in 
order; skipping them may miss the problem.  In some cases, the only
remedy is to wait for someone to fix the problem before you can go on.

 - Completely remove the object tree and start again.  You can do this 
   with:

# chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/
# rm -rf /usr/obj/*

   Normally the 'world' target will do this for you, unless you have 
   NOCLEAN or one of the related non-cleaning options set.
   The 'chflags' command removes the system-immutable flag which is set
   on some of the intermediate files generated during the build process.
   This flag renders files unchangable (and undeletable) as a security
   and safety measure.  Its use on intermediate files can be considered
   a 'feature'.

 - If you have a local copy of the CVS repository, completely remove
   the source tree, check out a new copy and try building it again.
   Make sure you make a backup of your kernel configuration files
   before doing this.

 - Update your local sources, either by waiting for the next CTM mail, 
   or re-running CVSup.  If you are using a local CVS repository don't
   forget to update the checked-out soruce tree with the 'cvs update' 
   command described above.  It is possible that your last update came
   in the middle of a compound change to the source tree, and that 
   updating is all it will take to correct the problem.

 - Wait a day or two, and watch the mailing list for messages about your
   problem.  If the problem is widespread (ie. not a result of local 
   circumstances) then other people will have encountered it, and a fix 
   is likely to be discussed rapidly.  

   While you are waiting, try investigating the problem yourself.  The
   build process isn't magic, and the error messages are emitted when
   it fails can often provide you with helpful clues.

   If you think you have found a problem, try fixing it yourself.  If
   you are using a local CVS repository or CVSup and you make a mess of
   a file, just delete it and update again; the file will be magically
   replaced.  You need to be a bit more careful if you are fetching the
   source tree directly with CTM.

 - If you cannot obtain a clean build after a couple of days of 
   watching the list and updating your source tree, you should post a 
   message to the -current list describing your problem.  It is 
   extremely important that you provide enough information to diagnose 
   your problem; without this information your post is likely to be 
   ignored because it represents a great deal of work.

   At the very least, your post should include:

   x The last update date of your source tree.  If you are using CVSup, 
     the time at which you last ran CVSup, and the server you updated 
     from.  If you are using CTM, the number of the last CTM delta that
     you have applied.

   x An excerpt from the the end of the build transcript above.  Try to 
     include the last few lines of commands before the "error 1" lines, 
     as these will generally contain information needed to locate the 
     problem.

   x A list of all the build options that were enabled.

You may be asked for additional information, or to try various things; 
be prepared to become involved in solving your problem, and look to 
learn from the experience.  In time, you may be able to apply the 
solutions you have discovered to someone else's problem, and in turn 
help them out.

It Won't Boot
'''''''''''''
Occasionally you will encounter a newly-built kernel that won't boot.
"Won't boot" may mean that it produces a panic message, or a fatal trap 
while starting up, or the system may freeze up, or reboot spontaenously.

There can be a number of reasons for these failures; the two most 
common are:

 - You have stale LKMs.
 - A new change to the kernel is broken.

You should always check for an LKM problem before suspecting that the 
kernel is broken.  It is easy to check whether you have such a problem:

 - Boot single-user (specify '-s' at the boot: prompt)
 - Mount the root filesystem read/write:

# mount /

 - Move the LKM directory out of the way:

# mv /lkm /lkm.bad

 - Continue to multi-user:

# exit

If this fixes your problem, then you should remove all of the old LKMs, 
and install a new set.  This can be achieved with:

# mv /lkm.bad /lkm
# rm -rf /lkm/*
# cd /usr/src/lkm
# make depend all install clean cleandepend

Note that both this technique and the one above for config may make 
temporary files in the source tree; this is dirty but expedient.

If the kernel doesn't get to the single-user stage, or if it still 
fails, then it is likely that the kernel is broken.  You should boot 
the backup kernel, which is a copy of the previous kernel which was 
made when you installed the new one.  This is achieved by entering 
the name of the backup kernel at the 'boot:' prompt; it's normally
called 'kernel.old'.  If you are experimenting with new kernels,
you will want to make another backup, as everytime you install a
kernel the backup is overwritten with the current kernel; two bad
kernels in a row would leave you unable to boot.

You can copy the backup kernel over the newer kernel with the commands:

# chflags noschg /kernel
# cp /kernel.old /kerne
# chflags schg /kernel

Once you have your system up and running again in this fashion, you 
should again keep an eye on the FreeBSD-current mailing list.  It's 
possible that your problem will already have been noticed, and a fix 
may have been made already.  If your problem persists after several 
days and several rebuilds, you can participate in tracking it down as 
follows.

It is important to provide a lot of information about kernel problems, 
as they can be very subtle.  You should build a kernel with the debugger
enabled, ie. with

options DDB

in the configuration file.  Ideally, the kernel should be configured 
with the '-g' flag to config, and installed in this form.  Be aware 
that this will result in a kernel that may be up to 10 megabytes in 
size, as it includes copious debugging information.

When the system panics, or encounters a trap, it will print a message 
giving details of the panic or trap, and leave the system in the 
debugger at the 'ddb>' prompt.  At this point, you should make a note 
of all of this information.  It is important that you do this, as it 
identifies the basic nature of the problem, its location and the state 
of the system when the problem occurred.

You should then issue the 'trace' command to ddb, and note all of its 
output.  This provides more vital information as to the state of the 
system.

Armed with this information, you are ready to post to the 
FreeBSD-current mailing list.  You should include in your message:

 - The trap/panic message and 'trace' output.
 - The last update date/CTM number from which the kernel was built.
 - Your hardware configuration details.
 - The kernel configuration file from which the kernel was generated.
 - The activity which causes the problem (booting, heavy load, etc.)

If your problem is due to a fault which is triggered by your system 
configuration or load profile you may be asked to try making changes to 
the source in order to locate a suitable fix.  These changes are often 
provided in the form of patches, which are discussed below.

There is a lot more that you can do with a debugging-enabled kernel;
see the online handbook for more details on this.

Something Funny happens When...
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
You may notice that the new kernel or userland doesn't behave 'quite 
right'.  A command may behave differently, or the system may not 
respond as it did previously under some circumstances.  In the worst 
case, you may find that the kernel may panic or encounter a fatal trap.

Under these circumstances, it is important to characterise the nature 
of the fault.  This means that you should attempt to establish, by 
trial and error, exactly what it is that is causing the problem to 
manifest.  It may be a combination of arguments to a command; a 
particular sort of system load, or any of many other things.

If the system is panicing or stopping on a trap, build and install a 
kernel with DDB and preferably debugging enabled as above.  Otherwise, 
gather as much information about the problem and any identified causes 
for it, and watch the FreeBSD-current mailing list.  If the problem 
isn't discussed after a couple of days, post your findings.  As always, 
provide as much information as you believe may be relevant, and be 
prepared to become involved in finding the solution.

How Often?
----------
Now you are running -current, how often should you update?

This will depend on your personal schedule, the load and demand on your 
system, and the general health of -current.  In general once a week is 
a good number if you are keen to keep up to date.  Once a month is good 
if you want to avoid falling too far behind.  Another alternative is to 
wait for a few days after a new major feature of interest is announced, 
to make sure it is stable and worthwhile.

Wrapup
------
FreeBSD-current can be a rewarding and useful environment.  Users of 
-current provide vital feedback to the developer community, who in turn
depend on this feedback as a check on their work.  -current users must 
be prepared to work with developers in the pursuit of a stable, 
reliable, high-performance system, and in turn developers must work 
with users towards the same goals.

Using -current can be a lot more work than a release or -stable 
version, but the rewards:

 - Improved performance.
 - New features and fixes, sooner.
 - A sense of directly contributing to the ongoing development
   of FreeBSD.

can be well worth the effort.

Patching it Up (sidebar)
--------------
When you are chasing a problem with your -current system, or if you 
want to try out something so new that it hasn't been added yet, you may 
encounter 'patch' or 'diff' files.  Often someone will send you one
saying "here, try this".

These files contain information which allows you to make automated 
changes to your source tree.  They are fed as input to the 'patch' 
program, usually as:

# patch -p < <patchfile>

It is important to be in the correct directory when applying a patch.  
If you can't establish this from the details at the top of the patch 
file, be sure to ask the author.  You can check that a patch will apply 
by supplying the '-C' option to patch; if any parts are rejected, the 
patch will not apply cleanly.

Note that if you apply a patch to your source tree, CTM will no longer 
be able to update the file(s) patched.  The patch program makes a 
backup of patched files with the suffix '.orig'; after you have tested 
a patch you may wish to move these files back to their original names.

If you are using a CVS repository, CVS will try to merge your patched 
changes with new changes to the repository.  This can occasionally 
result in files that cannot be used to build from, as they contain 
merge comments.  The easiest way to deal with such a file is to delete 
it and then say:

# cvs update -Pd <filename>

If you are using CVSup to update your source tree directly, it will 
replace any patched files with the current version when you update.


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