From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 28 19:12:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0031BE5 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@samplonius.org) Received: from mail-pa0-f50.google.com (mail-pa0-f50.google.com [209.85.220.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76BE326A9 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id fb1so7298060pad.37 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:12:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=ySOsJSaHujr2KueUNSwQqzLi+MlZN2x+NJmP6EVvo24=; b=RzBcDn1fuKRN8hYQQFDK6H0AOHcJ5aAceV3X/YCT4mhy1ssjxPwqDX+7bzH7b8kXov RqhwpokuOBT8iaostOF6OtCc6MtOrTki8tVkUzUSQ7ygKtd5MB+jXl7YkHFxyQymfNjZ XW9NkwTGbVm7bdmIMMTkMDXHP1TH+gxAm/Dw8WYmZb+uaGq+Mh35odCTFzfdDA0b2PAg WyXbTRxYQp+KzNLVb6setL9sp5RjiqfLIrpJXjXMCz85063ZQZO9wKRhBAPNKNb2l+sa 4n3XsqAlkiunZnqC/qTrJ0GzkZS5wW0YISy/T93EnI1YG2npsIagvAKOey9U/kGcZxrr rfdw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmajcizGHOkw/+RT88oJ2KvLYSa23tkZEa7agPN3UQ3cTcP3mpgbnltGRLnc+tN0LVURCCR X-Received: by 10.66.146.199 with SMTP id te7mr27388562pab.106.1382987543665; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toms-air.navcorp.ca (corp.navigata.ca. [204.244.110.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ye1sm37050591pab.19.2013.10.28.12.12.22 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1816\)) Subject: Re: [heads up] axing AppleTalk and IPX/SPX From: Tom Samplonius In-Reply-To: <139F9446-64B8-4105-AEFB-4F90EDB44792@lassitu.de> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:12:21 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <06F87683-2E6F-48A1-B99B-E9A00070D4C3@samplonius.org> References: <20131028124221.GO52889@glebius.int.ru> <139F9446-64B8-4105-AEFB-4F90EDB44792@lassitu.de> To: Stefan Bethke X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1816) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, Gleb Smirnoff , current@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:12:29 -0000 On Oct 28, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Stefan Bethke wrote: > Am 28.10.2013 um 13:42 schrieb Gleb Smirnoff : >=20 >> The plan is two axe two old networking protocols from FreeBSD head/, >> meaning that FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE, available in couple of years would >> be shipped without them. >>=20 >> 1) AppleTalk >>=20 >> Last time claimed to be supported by vendor in 2007[1]. In practice >> had very little use since 90th. >> Discontinued by major routing equipment vendors since 2009[2]. >=20 > Since Apple has now even deprecated AFP (the file sharing protocol = implemented by netatalk, among others), it=92s time to let go. >=20 Do you have a reference for that? Various pundits have claimed that = Apple is deprecating AFP because when you enable Personal File Sharing, = that enables SMB now, not AFP, but so far I have not seen any official = announcement from Apple either way. Tom