From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Feb 3 16:10:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA12860 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 16:10:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [165.254.13.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12854 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 16:10:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp-082.etinc.com (ppp-082.etinc.com [204.141.95.142]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA25981; Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:10:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 19:10:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199602040010.TAA25981@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Terry Lambert From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: Watchdog timers (was: Re: Multi-Port Async Cards) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert writes... >********************************************** >********************************************** >** ISA MUST DIE. THIS IS NON-NEGOTIABLE. ** >********************************************** >********************************************** >IDE is one of those heinous bogosities, like ISA, > >IDE must die; unlike ISA, this is negotiable, since you can always >(stupidly) plug in a PCI IDE card. > > the only possible explanation is that your are 'outta your mind'.... you and the guys in their offices on 6th avenue should get together...their the ones who think that ISDN should be all there is and get rid of POTs altogether.....except whos gonna tell the old lady in tennis shoes that her phone costs $300. instead of $11.? Your not the average user....the vast majority of users don need PCI (except for video to run windows, dont need (or want) SCSI or most of the other stuff you're putting on your dream board. Some food for thought...... You guys have been tossing around ideas about a "watchdog timer" board for the past week or so.......just remember that you wouldn't be having the conversation at all if you had to build a PCI card to implement it. dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX