From owner-dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Fri Feb 19 22:20:03 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: dev-commits-src-main@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03BC542121; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 22:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Dj5c36JlFz3Qw4; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 22:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from John-Baldwins-MacBook-Pro.local (unknown [IPv6:2601:648:8681:1cb0:d13f:2ab6:ef87:8212]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: jhb) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2371D25F02; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 22:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: git: 24fd63e0970f - main - mips: Don't set __NO_TLS to disable some uses of TLS. To: Warner Losh , Konstantin Belousov Cc: Brandon Bergren , Jessica Clarke , src-committers , dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org References: <202102180035.11I0ZnL3070354@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <9687575c-dd7c-1496-850b-2018f4bca3da@FreeBSD.org> <3045F222-DBAC-463C-B429-075B2CFB115A@freebsd.org> <012169A0-67EC-48B7-A1CB-2A9921EF63FA@freebsd.org> From: John Baldwin Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 14:20:01 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Commit messages for the main branch of the src repository List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 22:20:04 -0000 On 2/19/21 8:14 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > FWIW: Mips likely can play the 'not very popular tier 2 card trending > towards tier 3' card, at least for 13 since (a) 13.0 isn't out yet and (b) > the project doesn't produce mips binaries. It could likely even play it for > 12, but that might be a wee bit disruptive to the few users of it we have. We also only really promise ABI stability for Tier 1. Not that we should gratuitously break the ABI for Tier 2, but we have done so in the past for things like time_t. I think we should MFC all the NO_TLS removals to 13 prior to 13.0 being actually released. We don't produce release images for either MIPS or RISC-V. -- John Baldwin