From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 24 10:00:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F28FC3EC for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x230.google.com (mail-wg0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 818F01F55 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id a1so4481757wgh.27 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 02:00:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=QiOb7MujQC/ZbZbXIlRox761I9ds+LikBl4S6yCEk9g=; b=wAB8FGW5m90BZdKvZ2aRbOHkWfDIAQEDRMKOcrFEYqJViTt6EZueaLXMeZhCVmcRMx 0bjz2S9kTANwuGLdTf8sHEy5PJJhDddwN82CMC0KY8rLFx/1JbBzVB4BqBFYnTe9preu w+yXeNB/UCwTFFowCntywZPksBnTpe0P3iKx3Lt+tmlcABvQd6TuNJGVvk53i6iEirbr C1iUfFIgJxVjkgR/t8F5sXVugTUPD6ToAbjw6G2+Bd8/pC7yd2WE9gQkFiZoxwOdhY/8 JboRP158GzdeD6sxeFYmiGiaZVQYx6VEZx2NFKK/FsXNJdjb1B4s1H8Akgt23IXx0rgy 3vww== X-Received: by 10.194.61.114 with SMTP id o18mr17654731wjr.6.1393236040898; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 02:00:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ithaqua.etoilebsd.net (ithaqua.etoilebsd.net. [37.59.37.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z1sm40714804wjq.19.2014.02.24.02.00.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Feb 2014 02:00:39 -0800 (PST) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:00:37 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent Message-ID: <20140224100036.GA1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <20140223211155.GS1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <530B13CA.6000005@rewt.org.uk> <33612.1393235765@critter.freebsd.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="72pTQ1Q5L511SwPT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <33612.1393235765@critter.freebsd.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Joe Holden , freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:00:43 -0000 --72pTQ1Q5L511SwPT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 09:56:05AM +0000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <530B13CA.6000005@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: > >On 24/02/2014 04:26, Julio Merino wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Baptiste Daroussin = wrote: >=20 > >>> As some of you may have noticed, I have imorted a couple of days ago = dma > >>> (DragonFly Mail Agent) in base. I have been asked to explain my motiv= ation > >>> so here they are. >=20 > >> I'd argue, for example, that postfix can be also easily configured and= can > >> be made to not listen on port 25 for local mail delivery, while at the= same > >> time it is a fully-functional MTA that could replace sendmail altogeth= er. >=20 > >The trend towards having sensible lightweight things in the base is a=20 > >good thing IMO. >=20 > Fully agree. >=20 > To the extent we can manage it, we should have minimal client-focused > tools for things like DNS, SMTP and NTP in the tree and make it > trivial for people to install the fully featured server version of > their choice from ports. That's is what I'm doing with dma :) you want a full featured smtp server: pkg install ${FAVORITESMTP:-opensmtpd} regards, Bapt --72pTQ1Q5L511SwPT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlMLGEQACgkQ8kTtMUmk6EwCSgCgv3lVfXTSdEZW2pGM4t8guXrw koYAnR2f17ULXYJw/DNVZlKDQ4iE/cAd =RpgN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --72pTQ1Q5L511SwPT--