From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 7 21:38: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141BC37BD0B; Sun, 7 May 2000 21:37:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA42791; Sun, 7 May 2000 22:37:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA75575; Sun, 7 May 2000 22:37:34 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005080437.WAA75575@harmony.village.org> To: Motoyuki Konno Subject: Re: Japanse books (was navel contemplation) Cc: committers@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 May 2000 09:17:34 +0900." <200005080017.JAA12984@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> References: <200005080017.JAA12984@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <20000506170628.B20435@pavilion.net> <30571.957514645@localhost> <200005051247.VAA05684@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> <200005071728.LAA71465@harmony.village.org> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 22:37:34 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200005080017.JAA12984@sakura.mk.bsdclub.org> Motoyuki Konno writes: : Can I (or Japanese doc team) add all of the FreeBSD books to the : "list of FreeBSD books" page (http://www.FreeBSD.org/publish.html) ? Yes. Maybe under a separate section. : There are following problems. : o Each entry of "list of FreeBSD books" contains "book cover photo". : So, we have to get the photo image from the publisher. : : If we can add a book the list without "book cover image", the work : will become very easy. Yes. I think that's acceptible. If you have an image, include it. Otherwise just note its existance. : o I don't know the standard of the "list of FreeBSD books" page. : FreeBSD-specific book will be OK. But how about "FreeBSD and : other BSD" or "FreeBSD and Linux" book? I think that books substantially about FreeBSD are good here. Books that talk about only Linux, or where Linux is 90% of the book with an appendix on FreeBSD would not be good to highlight here. My take is that if it bills itself as being about FreeBSD or *BSD, then it can be included here. Just my take. : o The manpower of Japanese doc team. : As so many English doc changes have been committed last year, : Our work become very very hard. This is the sort of problem one wants with documentation :-). I wish that I could help out here. : o There are so many FreeBSD books in Japan, can we really add all : of them to the "list of FreeBSD books" ? The list will become : too long to read :-) I think that might be useful. It might be best to segregate them by language. : > If you have them in electronic form, you can generally get passing : > fair translations from honyaku : We are happy if English-native people will help our work. I'm sad to report than Honyaku is a great tool for someone learning Japanese to be able to communicate with Japanese people. It would not be suited for an automatic translation into Japanese of large, complex texts. This paragraph, for example, was totally mangled by honyaku when I tried to translate it. The sentences in this paragraph have too many cluases, which confuses honyaku and makes it harder for it to suggest a suitable translation. This paragraph is no more or less complex than the documentation that we have in our tree. I'd use it only as a first cut translation aid, if that, for a native Japanese speaker that also understands some English so they can go back to the original sources and see what was really ment. My Japanese is so bad that I'm unable to help in this area. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message