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Date:      Sun, 3 Sep 2000 19:46:11 +0200
From:      Mipam <mipam@ibb.net>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
Cc:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG>, Dragos Ruiu <dr@kyx.net>, cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J . Clark" <cjclark@reflexnet.net>, Bill Fumerola <billf@chimesnet.com>, Nicolas <list@rachinsky.de>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ipfw and fragments
Message-ID:  <20000903194611.A10607@ibb0021.ibb.uu.nl>
In-Reply-To: <200009031727.LAA03881@nomad.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 11:27:46AM -0600
References:  <0009030256211M.20066@smp.kyx.net> <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1000903094614.69440A-100000@fledge.watson.org> <200009031727.LAA03881@nomad.yogotech.com>

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> Actually, isn't the purpose of PMTU to avoid the need to fragment the
> packet at intermediate routers?  Since PMTU involves both endpoints of
> the link, thus allowing the originator to determine *if* a packet of a
> particular size can make it all the way from one end to the other w/out
> fragmentation.
>

As far as i can tell, it is :)
Nice link for this: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/rfc/rfc1191.txt
With other words, rfc 1191 has nice info about it.
I guess this is another good reason to allow icmp, especially type 3 code 4.

Now, i came to icmp again, a remark on the icmp discussion from latest time.
No need to explicitly specify to allow icmp type 0 on ipf.
Icmp state keeping will result in the answer comming through on the 
initial icmp type 8.
That is, i never experienced trouble doing it this way.
That doesnt mean that it's allright. Maybe there are circumstanses in
which you wish to explicitly allow icmp type 0 to come in, in which
case i'd like to hear about it :)
Bye,

Mipam.


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