From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 11 00:11:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4BC16A63F for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2006 00:11:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@FS.denninger.net) Received: from FS.denninger.net (wsip-70-169-168-7.pn.at.cox.net [70.169.168.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9964E43D46 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2006 00:11:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karl@FS.denninger.net) Received: from fs.denninger.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by FS.denninger.net (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id k8B0BHlr044969 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:11:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from karl@FS.denninger.net) Received: from fs.denninger.net [127.0.0.1] by Spamblock-sys (LOCAL); Sun Sep 10 19:11:17 2006 Received: (from karl@localhost) by FS.denninger.net (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k8B0BHgw044967 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:11:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from karl) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:11:17 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060911001117.GA44739@FS.denninger.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20060910183958.GA35701@FS.denninger.net> <00c301c6d50d$751ffe80$0a0aa8c0@rivendell> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00c301c6d50d$751ffe80$0a0aa8c0@rivendell> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Karl's Sushi and Packet Smashers X-Die-Spammers: Spammers cheerfully broiled for supper and served with ketchup! Subject: Re: ARRRRGH! Guys, who's breaking -STABLE's GMIRROR code?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 00:11:19 -0000 On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 10:15:20PM +0300, Reko Turja wrote: > From: "Karl Denninger" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:39 PM > >Yes it is, in the general case; in any event if you track RELENG_6_1 > >you will > >get no bug fixes in general - security related items to filter back > >down but > >in general bug reports posted against a -RELEASE are, if addressed, > >put into > >-STABLE. > > You would like untested fixes to hit the release version first? By the > way, possible breakage of STABLE due MFC process was announced a good > while ago... No, I would like -STABLE to be treated as what it is claimed to be - BETA code, not ALPHA code. There's a huge difference between the two, and MFCing something back to -STABLE without testing the functionality of the module you're working with first does not fit the BETA model (it DOES fit the Alpha model.) This is coming from someone who has run FreeBSD in a production environment for basically 10 years, and has even sometimes used -CURRENT during that time (with full knowledge that running THAT is, indeed, ALPHA code!) -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind