From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 03:57:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CF916A420 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 03:57:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from linda-3.paradise.net.nz (bm-3a.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B779843D46 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2005 03:57:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-1.paradise.net.nz ([203.96.152.177]) by linda-3.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0IO200L1VR07NK@linda-3.paradise.net.nz> for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:57:43 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (218-101-14-2.paradise.net.nz [218.101.14.2]) by smtp-1.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B3034A644; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:57:42 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:57:34 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <20051009020725.GC223@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> To: Peter Jeremy Message-id: <4348952E.8000007@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050726) References: <20050921174155.GB80991@xor.obsecurity.org> <43486C48.3090404@paradise.net.nz> <20051009020725.GC223@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> Cc: Joseph Peralta , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: errors during buildworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 03:57:44 -0000 Peter Jeremy wrote: > > Cooling isn't the only hardware problem. Marginal PSUs or marginal > electros on the motherboard are also quite common - especially if > the hardware is getting old. Electrolytic capacitors have a finite > life and this is shortened by heat and high ripple currents - both > of which are common in computers. > Yeah - its certainly possible that there is a hardware problem - as it is an older board, but I thought it interesting (or even slightly suspicious) that several of us are just seeing this in the BETA5 update scenario. cheers Mark