From owner-freebsd-java Thu Jun 27 13:16:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mgr1.xmission.com (mgr1.xmission.com [198.60.22.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DA137B401 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 13:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail by mgr1.xmission.com with spam-scanned (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17NdvF-0002yJ-00; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:23:52 -0600 Received: from [207.135.128.145] (helo=misty.eyesbeyond.com) by mgr1.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17NdvD-0002xD-00; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:23:12 -0600 Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g5RIN3l33648; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 03:53:03 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from glewis) Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 03:53:03 +0930 From: Greg Lewis To: "David P. Caldwell" Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A Call to Action for freebsd-java... Message-ID: <20020628035303.A33571@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <20020628024759.A33080@misty.eyesbeyond.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from inonit@inonit.com on Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 01:29:44PM -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.2 required=8.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,PORN_11 version=2.31 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 01:29:44PM -0400, David P. Caldwell wrote: > This seems like as good a time to ask as any ... > > I am very good at *Java*, but adequate at best at C/C++. > > I "know" C/C++, but I don't know how to use debuggers, don't have any > experience making system calls, etc. This kind of hard-core practical > knowledge I imagine is important to what you are working on. (Stuff like > "run it under gdb and tell me what happens" seems to come up, but I have > only the vaguest idea what that means and wouldn't know how to interpret the > output.) > > Presumably there are some people with my skill set laying around. What > would be the best way for *us* to help out (if there are any right now)? Thats a valid question :). Unfortunately there isn't necessarily a lot that people in that boat can do. Here are two suggestions off the top of my head. 1. Use the native JDK. The more people using it hopefully the more bugs can be found. If you do find a bug, please report and it and preferably try and narrow it down to as simple a test case as you can. The down side is that bugs may not be fixed as soon as you may like, but it does help. 2. If you're really interested, try your hand at working on the JDK source. Yes, you may have to learn more about C/C++ (or even assembler) but a bit of persistence can work wonders. Just pick a problem and go at it! Ask questions when you get stuck, you may be surprised at how happy people are to help when you're having a fair dinkum go at things. -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message