From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 7 0:25:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B3037B400 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E685343E42 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:25:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk ([IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g777PFFo031869; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 08:25:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost) by happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g777P9i6031868; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 08:25:09 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 08:25:09 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Peter Leftwich Cc: Jeff Jirsa , John Bleichert , FreeBSD LIST Subject: Re: Is simplicity despised? WAS: What do we need in a FreeBSD desktop? Message-ID: <20020807072509.GA31679@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophi> References: <20020806192425.K93310-100000@boris.st.hmc.edu> <20020806223420.F88874-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020806223420.F88874-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 10:40:33PM -0400, Peter Leftwich wrote: > Also, don't over-estimate the utility of an $EDITOR envi variable; Don't > forget about a $PAGER variable which IMHO ought to be `less -e` instead of > the usual and unusually morbid `more.` Ah, but on FreeBSD, less is more, more or less: happy-idiot-talk:~:% ls -lai /usr/bin/{more,less} 8199 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 85844 Aug 3 17:16 /usr/bin/less* 8199 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 85844 Aug 3 17:16 /usr/bin/more* The reasons it's called as 'more' by default on FreeBSD are history and POLA. If you prefer to change the value, then as an individual user you should know how to edit your .cshrc or .profile or .tcshrc or .whatever for your favourite shell. As an admin, you can modify the defaults for new accounts by editing the files in /usr/share/skel or you can modify the global /etc/profile or /etc/csh.cshrc or even add that environment variable in a shell-agnostic way by modifying /etc/login.conf Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way Tel: +44 1628 476614 Marlow Fax: +44 0870 0522645 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message