From owner-freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 16 13:28:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: usb@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D04816A41B for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from raven.bwct.de (raven.bwct.de [85.159.14.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA0013C46A for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de ([10.1.1.7]) by raven.bwct.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m0GDGYje007653; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:16:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [10.1.1.14]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m0GDGMHo080978 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:16:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m0GDGMEc009168; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:16:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id m0GDGMrt009167; Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:16:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:16:21 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Warner Losh Message-ID: <20080116131621.GT79270@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20080113.090822.-108809829.imp@bsdimp.com> <200801141747.37052.hselasky@c2i.net> <20080114.120058.74704237.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20080114.120058.74704237.imp@bsdimp.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.4-STABLE alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on cicely12.cicely.de Cc: usb@freebsd.org, freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: umass troubleshooting FAQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: FreeBSD support for USB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:28:36 -0000 On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 12:00:58PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > From: Hans Petter Selasky > Subject: Re: umass troubleshooting FAQ > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:47:36 +0100 > > > On Sunday 13 January 2008, M. Warner Losh wrote: > > > I think it would be useful to mine the PR database for common umass > > > problems that are solved by hints. There's a bunch of 'my umass is > > > broken' with no patch, but a few that have fixes that could be used. > > > Or a few that can be looked up in the code that have been fixed. > > > > > > Any takers? > > > > Should we have a separate bugathon on IRC/SIP/AIM/ICQ ... for USB ? > > No. > > This item isn't about fixing bugs at all. > > This item is about telling people how to fix N well known problems > with devices that need quirks. > > Eg, if your new device sees a 'No Sync Supported' message, then do > XYZ. > > If you see stalls in with these messages, do ABC. > > If you see a stall with those messages, do DEF. > > While it might be useful to have a bug-a-thon, without having this > sort of cheat sheet many of the bugs in gnats won't be resolvable. When USB started the USB guys at least have had so called "plug fests". Maybe it would be interesting to announce such meetings for FreeBSD on regional basis where at least one person with enough knowledge about FreeBSD USB code is present to get popular bugs fixed. If there is interest I might consider hosting one in Moers/Germany (Düsseldorf/Duisburg area) and likely be able to get this done in Lübeck/Germany as well. -- B.Walter http://www.bwct.de http://www.fizon.de bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de support@fizon.de