From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 7 17:00:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5104716A4DD for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 17:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E16D43D46 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 17:00:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k67GxxXw058006; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:59:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id k67Gxv6Z058001; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:59:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:59:57 -0400 (EDT) From: doug To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: <002d01c6a19f$35bd7ac0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Message-ID: <20060707125334.Q6216@fledge.watson.org> References: <20060705073724.GC29631@lothlorien.nagual.st><004301c6a0bd$0d36dc00$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20060706155340.GA7731@lothlorien.nagual.st> <002d01c6a19f$35bd7ac0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: HP Officejet Printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:00:03 -0000 On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dick hoogendijk" > To: "freebsd-questions" > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:53 AM > Subject: Re: HP Officejet Printer > > >> On 05 Jul Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> >>> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-OfficeJet_4300 >>> >>> "...these printers are supported by the "hpijs" driver beginning from >>> version 1.3. The driver supports resolutions only up to 600 dpi, head >>> alignment settings stored in the printer are not made use of, so use a >>> one-cartridge (CMY) printing mode in case of mis-alignments...." >>> >>> "perfectly"? >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "dick hoogendijk" >>>> This printer works perfectly with apsfilter. The latter does /not/ >>>> need cups (luckely imho) but works very well with the standard unix >>>> lpd. >> >> OK, the definition for perfectly does not agree with my statement. >> Otoh, my laserjet uses 600dpi and that is (for normal use) quite good. >> If I need higher qualities I use a printshop. >> As I understood the OP is a home user and in that sence 600dpi is ok. >> As for the heads: you have a point there. >> I could live with that and would buy a one-head-cartridge though;-) >> >> And, most importantly (to me), NO cups ;-) >> > > Yeah, they are uncomfortable things to wear, aren't they? ;-) > > A long time ago I posted instructions to the list on how to replace > cups with lpr, given -any- printer, -any- driver. What I have observed > is the prevelance of the use of cups in the online guides for hooking > up printers is because most people writing most of those guides out > there really don't understand how all the programs interrelate with > each other, and are merely copying other people's guides in how > to set the things up. > > Just about all the online printer setup guides that use cups in the > examples are tracable back to the instructions for setting up a printer > in gnome, on a Linux box where the distribution had gnome > preinstalled, since cups is also preinstalled. > > All cups does is muck with config files, it does not actually do > any conversion. The engines that do the heavy lifting are > ghostscript, which either converts postscript input direct to > printerspeak, for the limited number of drivers compiled into > it, or converts it to an intermediate format that is massaged > by gimpprint, or the manufacturers driver (ie: hp's driver for > example) into the printerspeak needed by the particular printer > model. You do not need cups, or apsfilter for that matter, to > plug the engines into each other. > > The other thing that is often missed is that for printers like the > Epson stylus c84 that I have, or the officejet that the OP has, > to get from postscript into the gross muck that these winprinters > can understand, takes a huge amount of CPU cycles for anything > complex. Pentium systems under 1Ghz need not apply. > > Ted Could you either repost your lpr email or if you remember the subject? I have access to questions back toOct 1999 with 2.115 posts from you :) We have FreeBSDing on workstations pretty weill in hand (thanks Xorg/KDE) but printing remains beyond our grasp.