From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 28 07:34:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimedia@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF3016A49C for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 07:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C040313C487 for ; Mon, 28 May 2007 07:34:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l4S7W6Jm007788; Mon, 28 May 2007 01:32:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 01:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20070528.013223.-490996626.imp@bsdimp.com> To: julian@elischer.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <465A7BC8.2080900@elischer.org> References: <20070527.223709.-201313103.imp@bsdimp.com> <465A7BC8.2080900@elischer.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 28 May 2007 01:32:07 -0600 (MDT) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GOPchop replacement? X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 07:34:59 -0000 In message: <465A7BC8.2080900@elischer.org> Julian Elischer writes: : Jeremy Messenger wrote: : > On Sun, 27 May 2007 23:37:09 -0500, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > : >> I'm looking to do non-linear editing, clip extraction, etc from a set : >> of videos I've shot. These videos are from a DV camera, and I've : >> processed them down into MPEG2 format for DVDs. I no longer have the : >> DV originals. I was wondering if there's any good non-linear editor : >> for these things. So far the best thing I've found is GOPchop, which : >> is still extremely primitive. Are there any others? There's many in : >> the multimedia category that look like they might do the trick, but so : >> far I've come up empty. : > : > Maybe this URL will helping you to find a better one. : > : > http://freshmeat.net/browse/256/ : > : > Which is better one? I have no idea. So far from what I see in the : > screenshots: avidemux and PiTiVi look cool for GTK+2 or GNOME users, and : > Kdenlive and Kfilm for KDE or QT users. I was hoping for someone who has actually done this to answer. "Tool X is what I use, and I do Y and Z with it." There's no end to sites that have lists of things available. Given that it takes multiple hours to build most of them, I'd rather see if someone else has actually used one before first. : > Cheers, : > Mezz : > : >> This is on FreeBSD/amd64 running current. : >> : >> Warner : > : > : ok : so I give up.. what does "non-linear" mean in this context? Non-linear in this context means that I can take a video stream. I can subset it into clips and arrange the clips into an order of my choosing and save the result as a new video. Bonus if the meta-data can be saved so I can tweak the edits at a later time. kino does this, but only with DV video. Warner